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re: Putin Warns ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab His ‘Days Are Numbered’

Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:06 pm to
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You hate Biden so much that you openly endorse a dicating psycopath with a track record of war crimes?



Biden ain’t shite but a puppet. Putin is talking about numbering the days of one of the primary actors in the current dismantling of our Republic, therefore viva la Putin .
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:09 pm to
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FCK you
Is this your way of admitting you can't produce a single document or link which confirms your claim that NATO ever promised Putin it would not allow any eastern European countries to ever become NATO members?
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People here agree with me
Not all of them. Just the dumb ones.

Pretty weak stuff, JJ. So just shut up.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Is this your way of admitting you can't produce a single document or link which confirms your claim that NATO ever promised Putin it would not allow any eastern European countries to ever become NATO members?
no. I am saying your original documentation was non existent.

THEN you do not understand one of the foremost geopolitical doctrines of the period of USSR dissolution..

then act as though I owe you a proof
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29726 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:15 pm to
To the downvoters, please explain what you see as the downside to Schwab taking an eternal dirt nap.

I don't 'celebrate' Putin, just his idea that the unelected WEF goons have way too much power and influence over western countries.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:23 pm to
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I am saying your original documentation was non existent.




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THEN you do not understand one of the foremost geopolitical doctrines of the period of USSR dissolution..
Since I worked in Moscow, Russia and in other former Soviet republics and Eastern Europe, including Ukraine, from 1994 until 2010 following the dissolution of the USSR, I'm pretty sure I know a whole lot more about that part of the world than you do or you ever will.

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then act as though I owe you a proof
Just tell me you can't find any "proof" without telling me you can't find any proof...

EDITED to add: Shut up!
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 4:25 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:23 pm to
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Why can't we find anyone in the West to say that???


You are right to ask this question, and every candidate out there should be required to take a stand on the WEF, right now.

I've been talking about the WEF, the threat it presents and that I will eradicate it. On the first day in office I will declare the WEF and Klaus Schwab a terrorist organization and terrorist, respectively. They will be treated accordingly.

Campaign video, January 2023:
WEF seeks to upend our Constitution and forcibly take everything from us and our nation – to destroy resources – harm us – control our energy, our healthcare, our privacy…
And to make use of the government’s monopoly on violence in order to bring this to fruition.
The WEF is a terror organization.

Klaus Schwab has already bragged about owning the Canadian government.
• As President, I am not going to let this
stand.
• I will seek every available option to rid Canada of Justin Trudeau, his deputy Prime Minister, and his entire cabinet.
• It is not acceptable to have the WEF, a terror organization, at our border.

The WEF is a threat to US national security and a threat to humanity across the globe.
As President, I will:
Declare the WEF a terror organization
Declare Klaus Schwab a terrorist
And Eradicate the WEF

Again in April 2023:
The WEF is a terror organization.
• Everything it espouses stands in direct opposition to the core principles that led to the founding of
our nation: the God given rights of life, liberty, and property.

The jackasses at the WEF previously had an agenda for implementation by 2030.
• Now they say they want to accelerate
that.
• Want to know why?
• Because they are losing.

Also, take note of the fact that one nation in particular seems to be completely unaffected by, and not subject to, the plans, meddling, and activities of the WEF…China
• That’s an interesting coincidence.

The destruction of humanity, including that in the west, and especially the United States, is a nonstarter and will be dealt with in direct
proportion to the threat it presents.
I will use every available tool to destroy the WEF.

The sovereignty of the United States, our Constitution, and our People, will never be placed in
jeopardy by Klaus Schwab, the WEF, or anything else.
Every entity that dares to challenge our sovereignty will be destroyed.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:25 pm to
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the Chinese feel the same way about Schwab


China is never affected by the WEF. They are either working with China or China told them what will happen if they meddle. Either way, it's interesting how the west is the target, all day, every day.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:26 pm to
No other site is reporting that this happened

Color me very skeptical considering Putin has met with Klaus on a few occasions
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:38 pm to
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No other site is reporting that this happened

Color me very skeptical considering Putin has met with Klaus on a few occasions
Good catch. I didn't think to check that out.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:02 pm to
In 2008, William Burns wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin's sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests."[17]

Many warnings about Russia’s reaction
Russian elite and broad public opinion have both long been opposed to such expansion, the placement of American rockets in Poland and Romania and the arming of Ukraine with Western weaponry.

When President Bill Clinton’s administration moved to bring Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic into NATO, Burns wrote that the decision was “premature at best, and needlessly provocative at worst.”

He continued, “As Russians stewed in their grievance and sense of disadvantage, a gathering storm of ‘stab in the back’ theories slowly swirled, leaving a mark on Russia’s relations with the West that would linger for decades.”

In June 1997, 50 prominent foreign policy experts signed an open letter to Clinton, saying, “We believe that the current U.S. led effort to expand NATO … is a policy error of historic proportions” that would “unsettle European stability.”

In 2008, Burns, then the American ambassador to Moscow, wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.”

Ukraine's Declaration of Sovereignty, adopted by parliament in 1990, declared it had the "intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles" (art. 9).

Ukraine's Declaration of Sovereignty, adopted by parliament in 1990, declared it had the "intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles" (art. 9).
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At this point it becomes to mention the works of Paul Wolfowitz at breaking Ukraines wish to remain neutral - moves that would lead to the USA developing at least two coups against the Ukraine people
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Many warnings about Russia’s reaction
Russian elite and broad public opinion have both long been opposed to such expansion, the placement of American rockets in Poland and Romania and the arming of Ukraine with Western weaponry.

When President Bill Clinton’s administration moved to bring Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic into NATO, Burns wrote that the decision was “premature at best, and needlessly provocative at worst.”

He continued, “As Russians stewed in their grievance and sense of disadvantage, a gathering storm of ‘stab in the back’ theories slowly swirled, leaving a mark on Russia’s relations with the West that would linger for decades.”

In June 1997, 50 prominent foreign policy experts signed an open letter to Clinton, saying, “We believe that the current U.S. led effort to expand NATO … is a policy error of historic proportions” that would “unsettle European stability.”

In 2008, Burns, then the American ambassador to Moscow, wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.”
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Usually a rationalist, Putin now appears to have lost patience and is driven by his emotions.

Putin knows enough history to recognize that Russia did not expand in the 20th century – losing parts of Poland, Ukraine, Finland and eastern Turkey after the 1917 revolution – except for a brief period before and after World War II when Stalin annexed the Baltic republics and pieces of Finland, and united lands from interwar Poland with Soviet Ukraine.

Putin himself was traumatized by the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991, the loss of one-third of its former territory and half of its population. In an instant, the USSR disappeared, and Russia found itself much weaker and more vulnerable to rival great powers.

Many Russians agree with Putin and feel resentment and humiliation, along with anxiety about the future. But overwhelmingly they do not want war, Russian pollsters and political analysts say.

Leaders like Putin who feel cornered and ignored may strike out. He has already threatened “military and political consequences” if the currently neutral Finland and Sweden attempt to join NATO. Paradoxically, NATO has endangered small countries on the border of Russia, as Georgia learned in 2008, that aspire to join the alliance.

One wonders – as did the American diplomat George F. Kennan, the father of the Cold War containment doctrine who warned against NATO expansion in 1998 – whether the advancement of NATO eastward has increased the security of European states or made them more vulnerable.

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:02 pm to
First, NATO and Kiev signed a letter of intent in February for cooperation between their special operations forces. Two months later American ambassador and current NATO Deputy Secretary-General Alexander Vershbow said it was time to bring the Ukrainian military “in line with NATO standards.” Barely one week later, though, the U.S. Ambassador to NATO ruled out NATO expansion for the “next several years.”

These muddled messages only cause confusion, provoking Russia while potentially false hope for Ukraine. For that reason, it’s time for Washington to make clear that Ukrainian accession to NATO is not on the table. Here’s why.

First, NATO possesses almost no ability to defend Ukraine. Russia has 270,000 troops and 700 jet fighters positioned on Ukraine’s southern and western borders. And as Russia demonstrated in 2015 when it sent 150,000 troops to surround Ukraine, Moscow can quickly mobilize its military in the event of a conflict.

Crimea, meanwhile, became a Russian fortress after its annexation. Moscow has fortified the peninsula with 25,000 troops, numerous ships and subs, as well as its lethal S400 air-to-ground missiles -- a weapon which could shoot down multiple NATO jets up to 250 miles away. Moreover, as Russia’s recent Syrian campaign demonstrated, its military now possesses the same type of advanced precision targeting cruise missiles used by the United States, providing yet another weapon Moscow could deploy against NATO if a war around Ukraine and the Black Sea broke out. Finally -- and perhaps most troublingly -- Russia even claims the right to deploy nuclear weapons to Crimea.

Given the massive military force Moscow can bring to bear around Ukraine, any American strategist advocating inviting Kiev into NATO should answer some difficult military questions:

1. Would the United States be willing to back up a commitment to defend Ukraine by deploying tens of thousands of additional troops to Europe -- essentially recreating a Cold War force posture on the continent?

2. How should Washington respond if -- as is entirely possible -- Moscow instigated further military action in Ukraine after Ukraine received an official invitation to join NATO, but before a formal agreement admitting Kiev to the club was signed?

3. Is the United States willing to strike command and control or military targets inside Russia proper if militarily required? How would it respond, then, if Moscow retaliates by launching missiles at Alaska or Europe, or by invading the Baltics?

4. And finally, is the United States willing to risk a nuclear exchange to defend Ukraine?

Recent war games revealed NATO would lose a war in the Baltics to Russia within 36 to 60 hours, and it’s hard to envision anything other than a similar outcome in Ukraine.

In addition, Washington confronts not only significant military obstacles in defending Ukraine, but also faces a significant gap between the Russian and American stakes in the country. As Putin’s invasion of Crimea and subsequent escalation in eastern Ukraine showed, Kiev’s geopolitical orientation is a supremely important national interest for Russia. By contrast, U.S. President Barack Obama’s unwillingness to supply Ukraine with lethal arms, much less deploy combat troops to Ukraine, indicates Washington’s interests are peripheral at best.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9361 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:09 pm to
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Every entity that dares to challenge our sovereignty will be destroyed.


It sounds like you want to kill a lot of folks in allied countries as well as some US citizens. Am I reading this right or is there a more sane approach you had in mind in getting rid of WEF influence?
Posted by Irish Knuckles
Nuwallins
Member since Jan 2015
1256 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Team Putin


if you ain't with putin, you ain't black!
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:11 pm to
The experts also said that there is a weak understanding on the part of the public about NATO. They believe that if the issue of Ukrainian adherence to NATO were put to a referendum, it would not be supported by the population; 51.2 percent of the experts evaluated the extent of the support as "medium" and 35.5 percent as small, while 9.3 percent failed to answer.

The right-wing MPs of the Supreme Rada enthusiastically applaud cooperation with NATO and are an actual lobby for the Alliance. As such, they were mentioned by 88 percent of the experts as those who could propel Ukraine toward joining NATO. The centrists in the Supreme Rada, the chief of staff of the Ministry of Defense and army generals, the leaders of finance and banking, and officers of the armed forces, according to 26-29 percent of the experts, are trailing the right-wing MPs.

So far the leaders of the enterprises of the Military-Industrial Complex who are oriented to cooperative links with Russia occupy third place in the opinion of experts among the opponents of links with NATO (60.5 percent). Pro-Russian politicians (86 percent) and left-wing MPs of the Supreme Rada (81 percent) occupy the first and second places respectively.

Experts consider the expansion of the zone of stability and security in Europe and the prevention of regional conflicts to be the chief goal of NATO enlargement eastward (58 percent). Another NATO goal is to help Europe adjust to the realities of the post-Cold War era. That was an opinion of 51 percent of the experts. Other goals, in the evaluation of experts, were as follows: creating military preconditions to curb Russian expansionism — 46.5 percent; filling the "security vacuum" in the region — 39.5 percent; supporting the countries’ of the region desire for integration into European structures — 34.9 percent. However, 25.6 percent of the experts consider NATO enlargement as a means of enforcing American hegemony in the region after the collapse of the USSR.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

quote:
Team Putin


if you ain't with putin, you ain't black!
BWAAA hA HAH
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:19 pm to
Impressive copy and paste job on your part but not a single word of it says the United States or NATO promised Russia/Putin that no former Soviet country or Warsaw Pact member would be allowed to join NATO.

There was no Red Line, or “understanding,” as you claim there was, to bar any country from joining NATO. There still isn’t.

You failed. So, shut up.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:22 pm to
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LSURussian

GFY pig nosed bitch
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:23 pm to
There are several points that show the existence of the original point I made

Just because you are a weak reader and thinker doesnt mean you can make articles you dont read mean what you want them to

Again. GFY, moron
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:30 pm to
To those capable of reading, unline LSURussian, here is the source article. It appears Putin does not DIRECTLY talk about Schwab - but the message pointed to elites in general sort of gets there.

Here is a source article of Putins speech:

Sputnik

Putin's Valdai Speech: Multipolar Future Has Arrived and Russia is Here to Stay

The multipolar world that Russian President Vladimir Putin has referred to over the past several years has finally taken shape, international observers told Sputnik.
Russian President Vladimir Putin delivered a speech on October 5 at the plenary session of the 20th meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club in Sochi emphasizing the tectonic and irreversible shifts taking place in the global order.
Sixteen years ago, at the 2007 Munich Security Conference, Putin told Western leaders that the natural type of international system is multipolarity, clearly showing that Russia would oppose US unipolar dominance. The moment of truth has come, and US hegemony is fading in front of our eyes while a new multipolar world is emerging, per Professor Joe Siracusa, political scientist and dean of Global Futures, Curtin University.

"In many, many ways, the future that Mr. Putin is talking about has already arrived," Siracusa told Sputnik. "What he's kind of saying between the lines is it's already here. Now we have to see it. The world has changed. And the reason he thinks that the Americans, particularly in Washington, make these terrible mistakes is because they do not see that the world has changed around them already. The world, the future is changing in front of them and they fail to see it. He thinks that might be the cause of the conflict.

Putin Outlines Six Civilizational Principles

During his Valdai speech, Putin outlined six principles Russia wants to adhere to and offers other nations to join it.
"First, we want to live in an open, interconnected world, in which no one will ever try to erect artificial barriers to people’s communication, their creative realization, and prosperity. There must be a barrier-free environment," Putin said.

The second principle is the diversity of the world, which should not only be preserved, but should also be the foundation of universal development.

The third principle, according to the Russian head of state, is maximum representativeness: "No one has the right or can rule the world for others or on behalf of others. The world of the future is a world of collective decisions," the president emphasized.

Fourth is universal security and lasting peace that takes into account the interests of great states and small countries equally. To achieve this, it is important to free international relations from the bloc mentality and the dark legacy of the colonial era and Cold War, according to Putin.

The fifth principle is justice for all: "The era of exploitation of anyone – I have already said this twice – is a thing of the past. Countries and peoples are clearly aware of their interests and capabilities and are ready to rely on themselves, and this multiplies their strength. Everyone must be provided with access to the benefits of modern development," Putin emphasized.

The sixth principle is equality: no one should be forced to obey those who are richer or more powerful at the cost of their own development and national interests, according to the Russian president.

"The 'civilizational model' referred to in Putin’s speech seems anchored on 'principles' – such as non-colonial relations; non-patronizing attitudes; respectful of diversity rooted in the diverse traditions – that will require a huge work to generate new shared international norms," Paolo Raffone, a strategic analyst and director of the CIPI Foundation in Brussels, told Sputnik. "The Western 'rules-based liberal international order' is unilateral, and it could be imposed in a specific time in history leveraging on the power and prominence of a small group of colonial powers that after the liberal model crisis and civil war (1914-1945) has been inherited by a distant but super-powerful country (US). In a nutshell, I can say that the 'civilizational model' approach probably aims at structuring a shared world 'software,' while the 'liberal rules-based order' has been aiming at building an imposed 'hardware' defended by 'rules' serving the financial and military hegemony."

World's Corrupt Elites & Special Interests to Blame for Crisis
Putin does not blame the people of the West or their governments for the unfolding global crisis, but the corrupt elites, or particularly corrupt interests within these permanent elites, according to Siracusa.

"And so, he's targeted the problem that a lot of the people have targeted, and that is the political elites, the foreign policy elites have targeted Russia, then, of course, China as part of their campaign to keep their people fearful and concentrated," Siracusa said.

"He's really telling these other publics to hold the elites accountable. And, of course, the elites that need a war of choice or necessity, forever war to keep going, etc., etc.. I mean, most of America's great industries, Boeing, Northrop, Raytheon, etc., depend on a continuing war. With whom? Doesn’t make a difference. It's got a kind of war-like production. That's been the essence of American prosperity since the 1950s," the scholar emphasized.

The arrogance of the Western elites reached its highest after the collapse of the USSR, according to the scholar. When the Russian Federation "was prepared to come to terms, to deal with the West, the West, particularly the United States, interpreted this as a weakness, not strength," and "started to dictate things," Siracusa pointed out.

Thirty years ago, the US and its satellites embraced hegemony, no one was going to listen to Russia; however, attempts to establish a unipolar order were doomed to failure, since the world is too diverse, the Russian president stressed.

"The overall speech gave a steady image of Mr. Putin, who also displayed a comfortable situation for Russia," Raffone said. "I would synthesize it in a few words: 'Russia has overcome critical challenges, and it is here to stay.' He stressed that 'Russia is the largest state on the planet' and he underlined that 'while the Russian civilization has no frontiers, the Russian civilization can exist because there is the Russian state.' This gives the impression of Russian steadiness and projection in the world."
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