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Putin/Donbas/Crimea/Ukraine for Dummies

Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:02 am
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:02 am
- The Ukraine neo-Nazi coup in 2013 was instigated by the Obama administration, supported by the Bush's of course the CIA and MI6 and friends (duh) – same way our “governments” created ISIS, same way our “govts” overthrew free Iran in 1953 and installed radicals, created Al Qaeda, the Taliban, etc.

- We don’t create our future enemies by accident. We do it on purpose.

- Donbas and Crimea did NOT want to be a part of the globalist/CIA installed government.

- How ironic that many Americans who believe in the American 10th Amendment for the rights of Texas, or Mississippi, or North Carolina, etc., do not support Donbas’ and Crimea’s right to secede from that installed Ukraine regime

- For 8 years, the western media has simply not covered the massacres and sanction-based starvation of Donbas people by the installed globalist and Nazi government, same as the western media has not covered the Yemen war started indirectly by us.

- For the past 8 years, food and medical services for the brutalized citizens of Donbas were provided by one source – Russia.

- How ironic that so-called American conservatives are in lockstep with 2013 Obama/Biden on the Ukraine Nazi installed regime. And Soros. And Victoria Nuland.

- If for the last two months you’ve been stumbling around saying “muh, some dude in Russia is a Nazi they said on Fox” then you’re a lazy arse sheep. You’re a lake carp eating a bottle cap because a group of laughing 10-year-olds tossed you a bottle cap at the marina carp feeder

- Crisis actors - didn't the globalists somehow "warn that Russia might use crisis actors" in wartime? How convenient. I'll have to check into that, I'm not sure who said it, but how convenient they would say that since we know globalists are the top users of crisis actors and war propaganda

- Many Russian oligarchs live in London, live in Florida, etc., to escape Putin’s justice in Russia, because they were organized criminals who preyed on the Russian people. They are protected by the likes of Britain, Soros, the USA, the CIA.

- Let me say that again for the really big dummies. Many Americans are now rooting for the side of Russian oligarchs..... *Russian oligarchs and Putin are not friends*

- The Russian oligarchs under the present protection of the west are safe for now, until the elitists globalists are through using them and give them the globalist version of the night of the long knives and Trotsky’s axe to the head.

- Russian people are not “commies.” Russian people are the actual people who suffered the most under communism. Weak lazy Americans need to study up. If you know a Russian person who loves communism, then I’ll present you ten who do not. We have probably ten times the number of communists in America than Russians have in Russia.

- Saying this another way for the really lazy historians here, if you think “Russians are communists,” then try asking the 80 million of them who were slaughtered under Soviet control and read up on Solzhenitsyn

- Who most prolifically said “Putin is an old KGB thug”? John McCain. There’s your sign.
- If you don’t understand how communism and oligarchism are two sides of the same coin, then you need to hightail it back to 9th grade civics class. Check out the notable similarity in the haves and have nots in both systems

- If you always wonder why it’s the rich elitists in the West who are most aligned to communism, and you can’t figure it out, go back to civics class.

- If you forgot that the true enemies of freedom daily accuse their enemies of what they are in fact guilty of, go back to civics class.


Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:11 am to
Mainstream media didn't report it... so it didn't happen according to the left and can continue to be ignored and people will not wise up.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53340 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:11 am to
Aaron Mate had a great review last month about how the situation got to this point.

quote:

By using Ukraine to fight Russia, the US provoked Putin's war

After backing a far-right coup in 2014, the US has fueled a proxy war in eastern Ukraine that has left 14,000 dead. Russia's invasion is an illegal and catastrophic response.


LINK
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 8:28 am
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12511 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:14 am to
Well I certainly don’t trust most of the high school dropouts that post on this board to educate me on complicated issues.

I have no doubt that neither the Russia or mainstream side is the actual truth. But the way you just matter of factly say all these things like they are obvious truths is just insane. You have really dug into your side of the misinformation war
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8375 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:16 am to
....and now we have a demented crook in the WH.

This will NOT end well.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14828 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:41 am to
This way is not the good guys against the bad guys.

It's the bad guys against the worse guys.

It's just like when you vote for a president. Rarely do you vote for one you like, you vote for the lesser of two evils.

I do know Putin is worse. Regardless of why he invaded or anything else, he is worse.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67910 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:47 am to
quote:

By using Ukraine to fight Russia, the US provoked Putin's war


The U.S. picked the hill for Ukrainians to die on.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Mainstream media didn't report it... so it didn't happen according to the left



that's right, not to mention a bunch of so-called conservatives who subscribe to "war is business and business is good" and still try and call themselves Christians

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35396 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:56 am to
Odd that every argument you make has only been supported by Russian State media.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17726 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Putin/Donbas/Crimea/Ukraine for Dummies - The Ukraine neo-Nazi coup in 2013 was instigated by the Obama administration, supported by the Bush's of course the CIA and MI6 and friends (duh) – same way our “governments” created ISIS, same way our “govts” overthrew free Iran in 1953 and installed radicals, created Al Qaeda, the Taliban, etc.


But Trump tweeted mean things.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:57 am to
quote:

It's the bad guys against the worse guys.



I do know Putin is worse. Regardless of why he invaded or anything else, he is worse.



absolute bullshite


people like you think this shite began two months ago


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68226 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:59 am to
quote:


I have no doubt that neither the Russia or mainstream side is the actual truth
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Odd that every argument you make has only been supported by Russian State media.



Which ones, and show me your source.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 9:02 am to
some of these people either think Reagan lost the cold war, or they think the Soviet Union just magically reappeared two months ago
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 9:05 am to
quote:

the way you just matter of factly say all these things like they are obvious truths is just insane.



really? Which one?

because it's all documented fact except for me not being able to locate where I heard the West/NATO warning "Russia will use crisis actors", which I admitted I don't remember where


so you prove your work on the rest big guy - that's what half of youall do on here, you just make lazyass blanket statements and that's your "proof"
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 9:06 am to
quote:

This way is not the good guys against the bad guys.

It's the bad guys against the worse guys.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53340 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 9:47 am to
And Aaron Mate, Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, Max Blumenthal, Jimmy Dore, and Michael Tracey among others. But, hey if you're not a neocon/neolib, you're a Putin apologist.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37628 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Odd that every argument you make has only been supported by Russian State media.





That dummy is incapable of critical thought
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 10:01 am to
The same people refuting this are the same people that convinced you idiots that Putin installed Trump in the WH, there was a piss tape, Trump used the N word, and the countless other lies we've been told over the last 6 years.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 10:16 am to
quote:

The same people refuting this are the same people that convinced you idiots that Putin installed Trump in the WH, there was a piss tape, Trump used the N word, and the countless other lies we've been told over the last 6 years.



yep


they've lost their fricking minds
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