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Kujo
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Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens. they are claiming that police are obviously targeting however I do not see any data as to how the arrests were initiated.

from my tertiary knowledge of law enforcement through watching reality TV shows it seems that most of the time police are responding to a complaint call made by the public. so if police are called to a scene and they witness something that is arrestable are they really targeting anyone?

I'm wondering if anybody has any information that can help me understand the issue better. thanks


SeeeeK
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
excuses for their actions, it's all it is


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TidenUP
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
Police know where the trouble spots are in their patrol areas. Therefore, they patrol those areas more frequently. It's not so much "targeting" areas as much as it is being aware of the most problematic areas.

When I was on patrol, the problem areas changed a bit when the offshore workers came home from their shifts on the rigs. Domestic violence cranked up a bit when guys got home from a couple weeks offshore and things weren't kosher at home.

Same could be said when the first of the month rolled around in other areas.

Just sayin.


GeauxLSUGeaux
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
It’s really simple. The police are making those poor black people commit crimes.


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ShortyRob
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
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people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens. they are claiming that police are obviously targeting however I do not see any data as to how the arrests were initiated.



My first question is in regards to that rate of 17x.

17x the rate of black citizens in the US population, or in that particular community?


Kino74
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
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people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens. they are claiming that police are obviously targeting however I do not see any data as to how the arrests were initiated.


Ask those same people if they live in a black neighborhood. Ask them if they don't, why don't they move there?

I'd even go as far as say those are the same people that complain about the high black on black crime rate.

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ManBearTiger
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
Democrat leaders and their ghettoization policies


volod
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
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My first question is in regards to that rate of 17x.

17x the rate of black citizens in the US population, or in that particular community?


Thank you ShortyRob. That's always a point that gets intentionally overlooked.

Similar to how how blacks commit 50% more violent crime. What that stat doesnt tell you is most of the crimes are REPEAT offenders.

I need to do more research, but it wouldn't surprise me if 3/4 of all violent crimes committed within black communities are the multiple offenders.



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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
Instead of saying "Commit less crimes"

They say "Stop arresting us for committing crimes"


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dakarx
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
Someone created a prediction program to help identify potential trouble/high crime locations for cops to focus on. It was tremendously effective... subsequently determined to be racist, profiling, etc...and the program was abandoned.


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TidenUP
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
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most of the crimes are REPEAT offenders.


And yet the laws that keep repeat offenders in jail after 3 or more convictions are labelled as racist and disproportionately affecting the black community.


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idlewatcher
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
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people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens


Do you live in the hood or something?


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Sidicous
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
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When I was on patrol,
but the op asked
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seems that most of the time police are responding to a complaint call made by the public


So did most of your arrests come from responding to complaint calls made or from your own patrolling?


TidenUP
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Dauphin Island
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
Combination. Believe it or not, there are people in every community that can/will report things, whether they admit it publicly is another matter. My point was that the police aren't "targeting" areas as much as knowing that certain areas produce calls/incidents at higher rates. Proximity to a potential problem area cuts down response time.


DyeHardDylan
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
Prison industrial complex at work. Arrest young poor black men for cheap labor, profit.


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Sidicous
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re: Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?
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Believe it or not, there are people in every community that can/will report things,
That is a good thing to hear!

Most of the stuff in the media is about how "the community" will NOT report crime as a main reason for crime infested hoods.

Of course like as usual with LeftProgFilth they move those goalposts when it comes to illegal aliens and claim policing those barrios will cause the residents to Not report crimes.

Left Media Logic: they don't report crime so enforcement will cause not reporting crime already not reported.

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My point was that the police aren't "targeting" areas as much as knowing that certain areas produce calls/incidents at higher rates. Proximity to a potential problem area cuts down response time.
Therein lies the problem for the Left...solving problems rather than perpetuating and redefining.


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