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re: PT lawyers - Federal judges having decisions struck down by higher courts?

Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:29 pm to
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PT lawyers - Federal judges having decisions struck down by higher courts?by


The fact that is a topic is disgusting but all to much an issue. All this means is that courts are completely politicized rather than using the laws that are already in place. That is why I have great distrust and disdain for the legal profession as a whole. Those who trust the word of a legal professional also whore themselves out to a system that is bankrupt of morals. Unfortunately there is no other system available so what we have is, well what we have. Do not break the law, avoid putting yourself in a position of litigation. if you cannot then pay off a judge and pay an exorbitant amount of money to lawyers. They do not manufacture, produce, increase value to anything other than charging you out the arse for services. Unfortunately they are needed.

With that all being said, I see AI replacing them all. That is also a frightening thought in itself.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 8:39 pm
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68809 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:31 pm to
Did I strike a nerve, kid?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143793 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:39 pm to
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The fact that is a topic is disgusting but all to much an issue


is it too much to ask for an honest judiciary? shouldn't the public have access to metrics that frame a judges ability to judge impartially?

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55729 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:50 pm to
Just another thing we can give Trump credit for......exposing how politicized the judiciary is against America First/MAGA.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:53 pm to
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is it too much to ask for an honest judiciary? shouldn't the public have access to metrics that frame a judges ability to judge impartially?


It should not be but here we are. SFP noted that it worked itself out with warp or light speed. Well that is swell. How about looking at WHY the hell it needed to be “worked out” in the first place. I am not a lawyer or have ever wanted to be one but have enough sense to know this was politically motivated. If I can see this then hopefully the public, elected officials and the higher courts can see it. Fix the fricken problem.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37266 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:37 pm to
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Is there a database that tells us what # or % of decisions that federal judges have reversed by a higher court?

Westlaw has such stats. Probably elsewhere too, not sure if it’s anything free
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:47 pm to
Over two and a half hours, and Slo has yet come to dispute your post.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 9:49 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28563 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:48 pm to
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Just another thing we can give Trump credit for......exposing how politicized the judiciary is against America First/MAGA.

Trump aggressively politicized the judiciary in his first term. If you admire non-politicized judges, you will not admire many Trump appointees.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143793 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:51 pm to
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TBoy


can you point out some of the decisions that Trump appointed judges have had reversed by a higher court that are political in nature?

if you can't name "some", can you at least give me one? i'd honestly like to see it.

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28563 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:14 pm to
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if you can't name "some", can you at least give me one? i'd honestly like to see it.

The Florida Trump records case comes to mind.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143793 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:41 pm to
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The Florida Trump records case comes to mind.


Is that the one where Jack Smith got caught falsifying evidence and got his entire case dismissed? Didn't he accept a pardon and flee to Belgium?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16879 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:45 am to
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politicized the judiciary
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The good news here is, we did put 235 judges, progressive judges, judges not under the control of Trump, last year on the bench, and they are ruling against Trump time after time after time.
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
208 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:56 am to
As stated, the legal research cites one has to subscribe to can provide the reversal rate. I suspect you can find the reversal rate for a specific judge if you search the internet by the judge's name.

Few judges get reversed more than 10% of the time, though, so don't expect to see huge discrepancies. Most of the cases they hear are not particularly controversial.

In my experience, Federal Judges HATE to get
reversed. It's a point of personal pride for them, and it can affect their status among their peers, their ability to be considered for higher positions, and the respect
they receive from the attorneys who appear before them.

Every decision a judge makes is enshrined, in writing, forever. No one wants to be remembered for making a bunch of wrong decisions. I suppose, in a politically charged case, a judge may be willing to take their position and let the appellate courts sort it out, but that is not the norm.
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