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re: Protestors block street/attack car in St. Louis - 3 get ride on hood

Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:28 pm to
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Let's see dat spin mmcgrath and TxTiger

Look. I dislike me some mmgrath.

But he ain't in TxTiger's league in this thread.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:31 pm to
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No, I'm saying that turning your car into a weapon because some people approach it on the road is morally reprehensible, a crime, and is punishable with jail time.

At what point would it be acceptable to run them over as they approached your car? When they would get to you or your wife's door window, each to open the door, club your windshield in, pull a gun...just curious.

Hopefully your wife isn't pregnant and you are rushing to the hospital, or one of your kids was injured at home. Just trying to get inside the head of someone like yourself who is hell bent on judging other people's motives in high stress outcome decision making.

Maybe you just piss your pants and put it in reverse?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:31 pm to
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Please. Weak argument is weak. The driver is in a 1/2 ton metal object that is mobile and secure, and you want to justify using said object as a weapon.

These folks deserve to go to prison. Go ahead and run over some protesters, and you'll go to prison, too.


What if they have items they are using as weapons? Even without weapons if people start jumping or hitting my car while I have stopped, It is not unreasonable to suspect I might be involuntarily extricated from my own vehicle and harmed.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66418 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 12:51 am to
No shite. If people randomly surround my car in protest - a protest in which I'm not affiliated with on either side... I'm running people over. Trust no one.

I don't know what weapons they have. I don't know their motives.

Hell, in the LA riots an 18 wheeler truck driver got his head beat in.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 12:53 am
Posted by Armchair_QB
Member since Aug 2013
1512 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 1:40 am to
Hey frickwit, you can't run over someone who is already laying on your hood.

You can give them a ride til they fall off though.
Posted by Raylan70
The Holler
Member since Aug 2017
551 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 1:56 am to
You should update your thread title to include Trans Lives Matter. Show some respect.

Also, if anyone has a dark sense of humor google "car of peace dukes of hazzard".

Posted by Raylan70
The Holler
Member since Aug 2017
551 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 2:02 am to
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The people in the cars aren't professionals at dealing with violent situations. A whole lot of perfectly decent people..........seeing dozens of angry people in a mob coming after their car are going to spook. THAT is the fault of the people doing the spooking.



This is an old story, but a reminder of what can happen when angry protesters surround your car:

Pack of teens beats man to death near Ferguson
quote:

Begic, his wife of six months and a friend were surrounded by a group a teenagers who began banging on it with hammers, according to authorities and witnesses. When Begic stepped out of his car to confront them, the teens pounced on him, pummeling him with the hammers and leaving him fatally injured. He died hours later at St. Louis University Hospital.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 2:04 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42548 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:19 am to
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minor annoyance

bullshite on 'minor annoyance'

You tell me why I should consent to be 'minorly annoyed' by some inane brain addled group of assholes in the street.

Give me one good reason why I should be inconvenienced one second.

There is nothing on earth that requires me to be an 'audience on demand' for anyone - even serious people with serious topics of import engaged in reasonable debate. I am ENTITLED to my own life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

THEY have the right of free speech, but they do not have the right to an audience. If someone thinks they are stupid they don't have to listen, nor do they have to be held captive.

Stand on the side of the road and attract people to your side by your eloquence and soundness of purpose = that is OK - I could be convinced.

Stand in the road and try to hold me captive for even an instant and you are about to get your arse flattened. I have no idea if that 'instant of inconvenience' is going to turn into violence, mayhem, injury, or murder on their part or not. They take their lives in their hands if they put me in that situation - and I am spring loaded to protect my own life and liberty.

And I'd feel the same way about a bunch of conservatives protesting in the road.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 4:20 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42548 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:23 am to
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Look. I dislike me some mmgrath.

But he ain't in TxTiger's league in this thread.


Yeah - I think I fell for a troll - I need more coffee.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42548 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:41 am to
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This is nothing like Charlottesville, but it is still a car hitting some people. Then of course there is the hit and run aspect. Even at 5 or 10 mph that is assault and some other charges.

Either way, I think we can agree that this isn't some HUGE deal, but prosecutors might want to strut to make sure there aren't any other drivers testing the grey areas.

True - C'ville was clearly a felony - committed by some crazy idiot. Based on what I know about the facts of that case.

But - I have to ask - what 'right' does a group have to stop traffic on a public roadway? I don't think they even have that 'right' if they were trying to get attention for an emergency situation. The ONLY thing I can think of where that should be legal, or moral, would be to attempt stopping traffic from contributing to an already emergency situation, e.g. bridge out ahead.

But to stop traffic just to bring attention to ANY political situation - especially some trumped-up, stupid, manufacturer, virtue-signaling, politically divisive purpose is not only illegal, but it is not 'right,' not logical, not rational, not well-intentioned, not effective. It causes nothing but anxiety, disruption, fear, and conflict.

I am anxious to hear from someone who is on the 'other side' of this debate. Just what is the objective of stopping traffic on a public roadway????

Care to address that? I think many of us would like to know what the reasoning is behind the tactic.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14048 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:34 am to
Did they put them in a decompression chamber after they got the Benz?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57867 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:39 am to
You know you have to be a special kind of stupid to jump in front of a moving car!


This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 5:41 am
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32862 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:40 am to
frick the protesters

TeamCar!
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30827 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 7:16 am to
Window rolled down arm out the window just cruisin'
Posted by BamaFan365
Member since Sep 2011
2347 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 7:17 am to
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Some of them are going get found not guilty because you'll never find 12 jurors who are all so fricking ignorant as to not understand that people HAVE IN FACT been harmed by these mobs.



Uh, wrong.

I guess you missed the thugs pulling people from their vehicles in LA after the Rodney King debacle
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33863 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 7:31 am to
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But on surface streets, they have the same right you do to use the road



Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90547 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 9:46 am to
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From what I've gathered it was a Trans Lives Matter protest lol


The driver supported their movement by putting his trans into drive
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64288 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 9:48 am to
I'm sorry but...










Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35379 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 9:55 am to
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But - I have to ask - what 'right' does a group have to stop traffic on a public roadway? I don't think they even have that 'right' if they were trying to get attention for an emergency situation. The ONLY thing I can think of where that should be legal, or moral, would be to attempt stopping traffic from contributing to an already emergency situation, e.g. bridge out ahead.
Pedestrians always have the right of way. In this case I don't believe they were "stopping traffic", just that some of the people with signs were in the street. If he had a little patience and didn't act aggressively there wouldn't have been an issue.
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