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Proposed Virginia Law Would Outlaw Firearms Instruction and Self-Defense Training
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:12 am
AbcBusinessNews
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The State of Virginia, now entirely run by truly insane Democrats who support infanticide and child murder, is proposing a new 2020 law known as SB64 (see link here) which will be taken up by the Democrat-run Senate beginning January 8, 2020. The law would instantly transform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira. It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes. It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle. Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person: “Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…” The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi. Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts skills which could be used to cause injury to other persons. In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:17 am to Revelator
If that law passes I propose that we nuke Virgina.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:18 am to Revelator
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The State of Virginia, now entirely run by truly insane Democrats who support infanticide and child murder,
And racist wearing blackface. Don’t forget that little tidbit.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:18 am to SOSFAN
I don’t really want you to nuke my home state. But, feel free to load up barges with progs and tow them out to sea
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:25 am to Revelator
There’s no way that bill passes. Even if it passes, there’s no way it survives a court challenge.
Telling though that a major political party in the US has members who think like this
Telling though that a major political party in the US has members who think like this
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:25 am to Revelator
LiberalHank will be along shortly to give us his 'libertarian' view of how there's nothing wrong with this proposed law.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:27 am to Revelator
this has been discussed and that paragraph is misleading. the proposal is crap but read the bill and see that it's not exactly how it's being framed.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:30 am to Revelator
First off, let me preface this by saying I hate these dumb shits. Can't stand them. Wish they would all move to California.
That being said, this proposed law is insane. It won't pass. I think there is a little more to the law trying to say you can't train paramilitary groups, but yes the law is too vague, impractical, and likely would be found to be unconstitutional.
I wonder why people propose such insane laws, and it is obvious. It resets the overton window to a degree. This is patently insane and not expected to go anywhere. But by saying this it's makes something a little less crazy not sound as insane.
The left is good at this sort of thing.
Anyways, point of the post is not too get caught up too much on this craziness. Be on the lookout for something else crazy down the line.
That being said, this proposed law is insane. It won't pass. I think there is a little more to the law trying to say you can't train paramilitary groups, but yes the law is too vague, impractical, and likely would be found to be unconstitutional.
I wonder why people propose such insane laws, and it is obvious. It resets the overton window to a degree. This is patently insane and not expected to go anywhere. But by saying this it's makes something a little less crazy not sound as insane.
The left is good at this sort of thing.
Anyways, point of the post is not too get caught up too much on this craziness. Be on the lookout for something else crazy down the line.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:37 am to arcalades
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the proposal is crap but read the bill and see that it's not exactly how it's being framed.
Thats nice.
Incrementalism has to start somewhere with any issue.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:39 am to Revelator
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Outlaw Firearms Instruction and Self-Defense Training
Outlawing self defense training? What the frick?
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:39 am to Revelator
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even Capoeira.
I love how they phrased that.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:41 am to thetempleowl
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I wonder why people propose such insane laws
Because they ask for Z, knowing they won’t get it, but in reality, they’ll settle for X.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:43 am to Revelator
SCOTUS will shoot it down. (no pun intended)
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:44 am to Revelator
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Because they ask for Z, knowing they won’t get it, but in reality, they’ll settle for X.
Not for long.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:45 am to Revelator
Felony for you and one for you and one for you. No voting against us any more and we win. Thanks every one.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:48 am to Revelator
Sounds like a bill pushed by Russia and China.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:00 pm to roadGator
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I don’t really want you to nuke my home state. But, feel free to load up barges with progs and tow them out to sea
I know seven families from Hasi & Grundy, that moved to my town, in 1947 when the paper mill was built. Based on what I know from the nature of these families, the entire western part of Virginia, will choose to just be felons and fight it out.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:24 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Sounds like a bill pushed by Russia and China
The left used to pretend they didn’t want a totalitarian government, but they don’t even try to disguise it anymore.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:32 pm to Revelator
Thats a shame.
VMI had a long and distinguished history of producing fine soldiers.
VMI had a long and distinguished history of producing fine soldiers.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:38 pm to Revelator
Lord. That is insane and it gives you an example of what is going to happen if leftists gain power.
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