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Proposed Virginia Law Would Outlaw Firearms Instruction and Self-Defense Training

Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:12 am
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The State of Virginia, now entirely run by truly insane Democrats who support infanticide and child murder, is proposing a new 2020 law known as SB64 (see link here) which will be taken up by the Democrat-run Senate beginning January 8, 2020. The law would instantly transform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira. It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes. It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle. Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person: “Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…” The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi. Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts skills which could be used to cause injury to other persons. In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12208 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:17 am to
If that law passes I propose that we nuke Virgina.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16416 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:18 am to
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The State of Virginia, now entirely run by truly insane Democrats who support infanticide and child murder,


And racist wearing blackface. Don’t forget that little tidbit.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140426 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:18 am to
I don’t really want you to nuke my home state. But, feel free to load up barges with progs and tow them out to sea
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7511 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:25 am to
There’s no way that bill passes. Even if it passes, there’s no way it survives a court challenge.

Telling though that a major political party in the US has members who think like this
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12932 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:25 am to
LiberalHank will be along shortly to give us his 'libertarian' view of how there's nothing wrong with this proposed law.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:27 am to
this has been discussed and that paragraph is misleading. the proposal is crap but read the bill and see that it's not exactly how it's being framed.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14828 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:30 am to
First off, let me preface this by saying I hate these dumb shits. Can't stand them. Wish they would all move to California.

That being said, this proposed law is insane. It won't pass. I think there is a little more to the law trying to say you can't train paramilitary groups, but yes the law is too vague, impractical, and likely would be found to be unconstitutional.

I wonder why people propose such insane laws, and it is obvious. It resets the overton window to a degree. This is patently insane and not expected to go anywhere. But by saying this it's makes something a little less crazy not sound as insane.

The left is good at this sort of thing.

Anyways, point of the post is not too get caught up too much on this craziness. Be on the lookout for something else crazy down the line.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:37 am to
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the proposal is crap but read the bill and see that it's not exactly how it's being framed.


Thats nice.
Incrementalism has to start somewhere with any issue.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:39 am to
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Outlaw Firearms Instruction and Self-Defense Training


Outlawing self defense training? What the frick?
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14814 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:39 am to
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even Capoeira.



I love how they phrased that.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57958 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:41 am to
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I wonder why people propose such insane laws


Because they ask for Z, knowing they won’t get it, but in reality, they’ll settle for X.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:43 am to
SCOTUS will shoot it down. (no pun intended)
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:44 am to
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Because they ask for Z, knowing they won’t get it, but in reality, they’ll settle for X.


Not for long.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64659 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:45 am to
Felony for you and one for you and one for you. No voting against us any more and we win. Thanks every one.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61247 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:48 am to
Sounds like a bill pushed by Russia and China.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:00 pm to
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I don’t really want you to nuke my home state. But, feel free to load up barges with progs and tow them out to sea




I know seven families from Hasi & Grundy, that moved to my town, in 1947 when the paper mill was built. Based on what I know from the nature of these families, the entire western part of Virginia, will choose to just be felons and fight it out.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57958 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:24 pm to
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Sounds like a bill pushed by Russia and China


The left used to pretend they didn’t want a totalitarian government, but they don’t even try to disguise it anymore.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:32 pm to
Thats a shame.

VMI had a long and distinguished history of producing fine soldiers.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22380 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:38 pm to
Lord. That is insane and it gives you an example of what is going to happen if leftists gain power.
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