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re: Professional skeptic Sam Harris on the UFO stuff (long)

Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:25 am to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:25 am to
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Did anyone notice that the latest photos showing the flying triangles that the triangles had flashing lights? I suppose that is because this advanced civilization needs some kind of collision avoidance system when flying in formation

Since the nearest solar systems that are likely to have life are lightyears away, these aliens have to be old as hell, and keep forgetting to cancel their turn signals.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:29 am to
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are lightyears away

Many, many, many light years away
FIFY
Posted by AURaptor
South
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:43 am to
You’re confusing skepticism and cynicism.

Skeptics ask for proof, cynics reject proof.
Posted by AURaptor
South
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:46 am to
The triangle / pyramid craft did remind me of standard airplanes but way out of focus.
Posted by 200MPHCOBRA
Metairie
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:16 am to
Is it so hard to believe in a 13 billion year old universe with a trillion galaxies their isn't a at least a few civilizations far older and more advanced than we are. Would they not be able to build AI and communicate instantaneously with what we know about quantum entanglement, which can work but we don't have a handle on yet? Millions of years is plenty of time for inter galaxy travel at 10% of lightspeed. PHYICAL BEING Aliens landing on the white house lawn however is going to be a stretcher.
Posted by AURaptor
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:21 am to
Still isn’t any evidence, but for blurry, shaky pics & video. Oh, and personal testimony. Lots of that.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:33 am to
The thing is, there’s a huge chasm between “hoax” and “aliens”. Most of these sightings and videos aren’t hoaxes and few people ever claimed they all were. The fact remains however that only two categories of UFOs exist: Those for which a logical, understood natural or man made phenomenon had been conclusively or probably discovered, and those which remain a mystery. None, not one, has provided any evidence of aliens beyond “that’s weird and we can’t explain it yet”.

The default position, the null hypothesis so to speak, remains that these all have non-alien explanations until proven otherwise because up to this point the explanations for the ones we understand have ALL gone one way. At this point we have no actual evidence that aliens exist at all, given UFOs have never actually been shown to ever be a marker for such things. We just like to assume they are or wonder what I’d they were. But assuming aliens (or space demons, or whatever else you want to associate them with) as an explanation at this point is a logical fallacy.
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Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:36 am to
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There is plenty of evidence going back to the start of human civilization.


There is not one single piece of meaningful, unambiguous evidence for the existence of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Not one.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:46 am to
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Is it so hard to believe in a 13 billion year old universe with a trillion galaxies their isn't a at least a few civilizations far older and more advanced than we are. Would they not be able to build AI and communicate instantaneously with what we know about quantum entanglement, which can work but we don't have a handle on yet

We always have to invoke this stuff. But I’m sure there is physics we don’t understand. And technology we don’t know. Just keep in mind we evolved from a dumber version of ourselves. And our version may be less than a half million years old. I didn’t wiki Homo sapiens. So modern man may be less than a hundred thousand years old. So any evolved civilization out there likely won’t last any longer than we will before we go extinct.
Posted by RancherReb
MS
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:00 am to
I don’t know. I just think if there were ufos, there would always had been chatter. I have searched newspapers from the 19th century, and they don’t talk about anything of the such.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:03 am to
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Did anyone notice that the latest photos showing the flying triangles that the triangles had flashing lights? I suppose that is because this advanced civilization needs some kind of collision avoidance system when flying in formation. It’s good to know we already developed that technology.

Yeah, the Navy stating that was a genuine UAP tells you that they can't be trusted. That was a jet and the pyramid shape a result of a triangular iris. LINK
Posted by the whyrly byrd
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:23 am to
Mick West througoughly debunked the USS Russell footage a little more than planes and a lense iris effect. It's all BS and probably just another psyop brought to you by our kabuki theatre overlords. The Clinton and Podesta were previously trying to sell the UFO narrative about "disclosure" coming into the 2016 election, so its likely that this particular psyop has been on the back burner because of Trump. If you look at Tom Delonge and the To The Stars Academy it's backed by senior ex-CIA. One wonders about the motivation and given the track record of the players. It almost certainly nothing benign. If this follows the usual pattern, the story is 100 percent fabricated, but the false flag will make it as real as possible. One can imagine quite a number of scenarios in government interests might use experimental drones and other aircrafts to achieve political and social "agenda."
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:29 am to
There is nothing interesting in that entire blabbering paragraph
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:41 am to
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Why is this pro alien? If they exist, they exist. And they do, the question is are the capable of getting here. I don't see anything wrong with discussing possibilities


You would think it is significant enough to at least out do the daily hyper-partisan topics that people will forget in a day or two
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:43 am to
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Did anyone notice that the latest photos showing the flying triangles that the triangles had flashing lights? I suppose that is because this advanced civilization needs some kind of collision avoidance system when flying in formation. It’s good to know we already developed that technology


That one has been debunked. It’s a plane
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:47 am to
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The triangle / pyramid craft did remind me of standard airplanes but way out of focus


That’s exactly what it is. One, the blinking. Two, you will notice if you look closely that it’s not the only triangle in the video. There are darker ones in front of it, so that should throw red flags. There is a video explaining it somewhere
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:48 am to
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Still isn’t any evidence, but for blurry, shaky pics & video. Oh, and personal testimony. Lots of that


There is radar and satellite data
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:54 am to
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Washington Post article, a New Yorker article


That seals it! It has been reported In the WaPo!



Any “professional skeptic” who believes anything printed in the Washington Compost is in reality a professional sucker.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:02 am to
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There is radar and satellite data



Can such data be manipulated?

Posted by AURaptor
South
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 10:25 am to
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There is radar data


Yes. Sometimes. Of " something ".

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Satellite


Now there's something I've not seen myself, but again, of what? If a ship or airplane's system can't get a clear image of these things, what does a satellite image show ?
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