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re: Pro-lifer struck with cane, shoved by pro-choice demonstrators
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:50 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:50 am to mmcgrath
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Is this what you wusses go crying to the police about nowadays?
Why not? It's you lefties' tactics! Have trouble swallowing your own medicine? Your "pro-abortion" allies there are all about folks keeping off their bodies...so hypocritical to poke and shove someone demonstrating his rights. Maybe he didn't welcome his body being violated. Got any critique of their unwarranted actions or is it just a one way thing for you like most Libs???
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:50 am to ShortyRob
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If there were no disagreement, this thread wouldn't exist.
I didn't say there wasn't disagreement.
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1. Pretty much everyone agrees 5 minutes after it pops out equals "it's a human".
2. With pretty friggin rare exception, pretty much everyone agrees the same 5 minutes before it pops out
3. Somewhere, working back, disagreement grows.
That's nice, but that's not what I asked about. I asked why you defined the "left" line different from the right line when it could be nearly a mirror of the same.
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I'm simply starting with where everyone agrees and asking
No, you aren't. You won't even define the point where agreement supposedly exists on one side.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:53 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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No, you aren't. You won't even define the point where agreement supposedly exists on one side.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:And, I said I defined it that way because at one end, there was basically 100% agreement, the other, there was not. And, I allowed for using different terminology if that was your preference because the terminology wasn't important to me. Simply starting from the point of agreement was my approach.
That's nice, but that's not what I asked about. I asked why you defined the "left" line different from the right line when it could be nearly a mirror of the same.
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No, you aren't. You won't even define the point where agreement supposedly exists on one side.
Did I not say that we all basically agree at the 5 minutes before it pops out mark?
Are you asserting that we have a point of full agreement at the other end? If so, then I'm open to hearing it.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:54 am to DemonKA3268
Don't use that word. You don't know what it means.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:57 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Don't use that word. You don't know what it means.
Lol, okay slave, you wouldn't even know how to spell it if I didn't do it for you.
You are nothing more than an Ohio reject (shitty state BTW). You have done nothing in your life except whine and complain about your emotions. Time to grow up and be an adult.
Wow, he showed me, he down voted this. The horror of being down voted by a no talent arse clown
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:58 am to ShortyRob
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Are you asserting that we have a point of full agreement at the other end?
For the most part, absolutely. I think most people would agree that at the point of fertilization, you do not have a fully developed human being.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:01 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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For the most part, absolutely. I think most people would agree that at the point of fertilization, you do not have a fully developed human being.
Funny how idiots try to justify killing...
Must suck to have to jump from alter to alter to down vote. So pathetic
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:03 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Interesting choice of term, "fully developed human being".
For the most part, absolutely. I think most people would agree that at the point of fertilization, you do not have a fully developed human being.
I feel very confident I haven't addressed "fully developed" at any point in this thread.
I've addressed, at one end, we basically ALL agree "can't kill it"...........at the other end...........quite obviously........we have disagreement.
Since we basically ALL agree on one end, then, I revert to my 3 questions of choicers.
1. When, working backwards.........to THEM.......does it become OK to kill(since they agree we can't kill it at the 5 minutes before pops out point)
2. Why is that the point it becomes OK?
3. What special thing occurs at that point that did not exist microseconds before, but does exist microseconds after?
These are perfectly fair questions to ask since we have full "no kill" agreement on one end.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:05 pm to ShortyRob
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fully developed
You for sure aren't talking about that retards brain, that's for sure.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:06 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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I support abortion
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I am aware that a human being is being murdered
Wut?
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:07 pm to ShortyRob
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Why has this thread devolved into debate on abortion?
Current year!
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:08 pm to ShortyRob
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Interesting choice of term, "fully developed human being".
I don't find it that interesting, as development is at the very core of this debate. For both sides.
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I've addressed, at one end, we basically ALL agree "can't kill it"...........at the other end...........quite obviously........we have disagreement.
Nah. You're trying to frame the discussion in your own terms, and that won't happen, at least not with me.
Still, there is obviously a point at which most reasonable people ignore "can't kill it." Therefore, there is an absolute starting point to the other side. Why are you avoiding it?
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You're trying to frame the discussion in your own terms, and that won't happen, at least not with me.
Dumbarse, WTF do you think you are trying to do? Damn you are stupid but I didn't think you were that stupid. "at least not with me" keep being a slave to dumbarses, it suits you very well.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Nah. You're trying to frame the discussion in your own terms, and that won't happen, at least not with me.
quote:I literally asked you to define that point as you'd prefer. Said I was open to hearing it.
Therefore, there is an absolute starting point to the other side. Why are you avoiding it?
So, now we're on like page 4 of you doing what you always do. Debating language. OK. Fine.
You define the line at both ends where you see agreement and we'll work with that. If you don't want to call it a line, call it what you prefer.
I'll work with YOUR framing since you don't like mine.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:15 pm to ShortyRob
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I literally asked you to define that point as you'd prefer. Said I was open to hearing it. So, now we're on like page 4 of you doing what you always do. Debating language. OK. Fine. You define the line at both ends where you see agreement and we'll work with that. If you don't want to call it a line, call it what you prefer. I'll work with YOUR framing since you don't like mine.
He's just going to piss down your boot and call it rain.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:16 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:I know.
He's just going to piss down your boot and call it rain.
Not my first rodeo.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:16 pm to Crimson Wraith
No shite the cop waved them off. Cops have a different way of applying the law.. it solely depends on what their bosses say.
Like in Berkeley, Charlottesville, Portland... cops were told to stand down and let one side be physically beat with weapons.
Like in Berkeley, Charlottesville, Portland... cops were told to stand down and let one side be physically beat with weapons.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:17 pm to ShortyRob
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I literally asked you to define that point as you'd prefer. Said I was open to hearing it.
So, now we're on like page 4 of you doing what you always do. Debating language. OK. Fine.
You argued against my assertion that you were incorrect. I addressed that as often as you pushed back.
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You define the line at both ends where you see agreement and we'll work with that. If you don't want to call it a line, call it what you prefer.
I'd say most reasonable people would say fertilization and birth are the lines.
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I'll work with YOUR framing since you don't like mine.
Don't be dramatic. I'm allowing you to work yourself to a more reasonable starting point.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:18 pm to ShortyRob
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Not my first rodeo.
I know. You would think he would actually bring something intelligent to the table but he seems incapable of doing that.
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