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re: Pro-lifer struck with cane, shoved by pro-choice demonstrators
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:29 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:29 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Well, we know we end up with a human on the right side of the line.
Why are those the two sides?
And, one side argues that at some point working backwards, it ain't human.
So. Basically, I'm granting BOTH positions. I rarely feel it is productive in debate to simply ignore the other guy's position.
So. I'm saying, "accepting where the other side and I agree............and granting that the other side says that at some point it's OK to kill(not human)......that's our points on the line".
Yes. Obviously, there are people who reside at varying points in the line saying it's OK to abort but we.....again, with pretty rare exception.............ALL agree we can't kill it 5 minutes after it pops out cause it's human.
So, when have a discussion on pretty much any subject, it's often most productive to start from where all parties agree.
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:and this is why you're a waste of time. you have rebutted neither one. here's an idea, why don't you tell all of us precisely HOW those things are wrong instead of just typing with your thumb on your phone while hosing down the cars at the local car wash
Your arguments can be narrowed to "sled test" and "moral fact."
quote:says the person who isn't even trying to answer the op in the other thread. just crapping all over the place
You have no room to speak about anyone's ignorance with that sophomoric nonsense forming the basis of your position.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:31 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Well, we know we end up with a human on the right side of the line.
And, one side argues that at some point working backwards, it ain't human.
Ok, so why isn't it "the left side being DEFINITELY not human and the right side being DEFINITELY HUMAN?"
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:32 am to ShortyRob
I do have another question in this thread.
Why has this thread devolved into debate on abortion?
Shouldn't we all be able to agree on the following?
1. It's not OK to assault peacefully demonstrating pro-lifers
2. It's not OK to assault peacefully demonstrating pro-choicers
Why has this thread devolved into debate on abortion?
Shouldn't we all be able to agree on the following?
1. It's not OK to assault peacefully demonstrating pro-lifers
2. It's not OK to assault peacefully demonstrating pro-choicers
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:32 am to bfniii
quote:
and this is why you're a waste of time.
Cool.
Then you can stop following me around and move on with your life.
quote:
says the person who isn't even trying to answer the op in the other thread.
I did answer it. You just didn't like the answer.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:33 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:you haven't posted anything loser. much less tried to address the op. heck you haven't even tried to answer questions in this thread
Last I checked, I was waiting for you to address something
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:33 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:says the person who linked a google search for "science"
It's interesting to see you whining about this, with how little you've contributed
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:34 am to bfniii
quote:
heck you haven't even tried to answer questions in this thread
Which questions are those?
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:34 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Ok, so why isn't it "the left side being DEFINITELY not human and the right side being DEFINITELY HUMAN?"
Because there's disagreement on one end, and agreement on the other. I mean, if you prefer, I can say the left side is "we disagree on the status" and the right side is "we agree".
Hence, since we BOTH agree on the right side...........this means ONE side believes that working backwards, it ceases to be human.
Hence, they ought to be able to articulate when that literal magic moment occurred.
I used to be vehemently pro-choice..........Alas, I recognized that I cannot even BEGIN to answer that question and not another person alive can.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:35 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:you responded in my thread
Then you can stop following me around and move on with your life
quote:nope. still out there waiting. whenever you're ready champ
I did answer it.
quote:or it was stupid. one of the two
You just didn't like the answer
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Which questions are those?
ah geez. typical. "but i educated you"Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:36 am to bfniii
quote:
you responded in my thread
And you followed me to this thread to whine about me not posting in it enough.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:37 am to bfniii
DB has never seen an abortion thread he could resist staying out of. Perhaps best not to feed the troll.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:37 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Because there's disagreement on one end, and agreement on the other.
Not really. Did you even define where those lines are?
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:39 am to Perfect Circle
quote:
DB has never seen an abortion thread he could resist staying out of.
What?
There are half a dozen examples on the first page alone.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:41 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Not really.
If there were no disagreement, this thread wouldn't exist.
quote:
Did you even define where those lines are?
1. Pretty much everyone agrees 5 minutes after it pops out equals "it's a human".
2. With pretty friggin rare exception, pretty much everyone agrees the same 5 minutes before it pops out
3. Somewhere, working back, disagreement grows.
Call it a line or whatever is your preference.
I'm simply starting with where everyone agrees and asking, working backwards from birth a couple of perfectly fair questions.
1. When, in THEIR pro choice minds, does the baby shift from human even in THEIR eyes to "not human" or, more succinctly, "ok to kill"
2. What is their rationale for that moment......because......it is absolutely a MOMENT in time.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 11:42 am
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:43 am to Crimson Wraith
quote:
Struck with cane
Really? Seems a bit dramatic. I went into the video thinking someone whacked a guy with a cane. At best, he was poked. Doesn't make it right either way.
I just can't believe this all happened in Mississippi.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:43 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Because there's disagreement on one end, and agreement on the other.
You know you're wasting your time on Buckeye and his schtick...
He likes to "Hillary" his positions where he gives some sort of vague bullzhit non-answer "answer" that doesn't pin him down because he's incapable of fomenting a coherent argument to buffer his "positions".....
He divides his time between sniffing his own farts and strutting around the chess-board pretending he won....
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:43 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Back to a question from earlier: The old aggressor came toward the victim and stabbed at him with the end of his cane. Yes, that deserved an arse beating. And then the oil-change guy puts both hands on the protestor's chest and shoves him.
Still don't blame the cop for not cuffing and stuffing. He kept the peace, mostly. Both sides exercised their rights to protest.
Still don't blame the cop for not cuffing and stuffing. He kept the peace, mostly. Both sides exercised their rights to protest.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:44 am to oogabooga68
quote:
You know you're wasting your time on Buckeye and his schtick...
Not my first rodeo
I do have another question in this thread.
Why has this thread devolved into debate on abortion?
Shouldn't we all be able to agree on the following?
1. It's not OK to assault peacefully demonstrating pro-lifers
2. It's not OK to assault peacefully demonstrating pro-choicers
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