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re: Princeton scientists claim we'll have hot fusion reactors in 10 years

Posted on 12/26/19 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10538 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 6:58 pm to
Haven't thorium reactors been around for a while and are much safer than typical nuclear power?

Point is, I wonder how long government will hold this tech up from reaching the masses.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19386 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:01 pm to
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Well that fricking sucks... We will only have two years to enjoy the technology before the world ends

Exactly what I was thinking. They'll figure out a way to weaponize it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83702 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:03 pm to
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Exactly what I was thinking. They'll figure out a way to weaponize it.


I’m not, I’m talking about AOC’s claim were fricked and 12yrs is all we have left.

Too little too late Princeton scientists... All your brain power won’t help us. Time to kill all the cows and ground all planes.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:07 pm to
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Establishing a stable, continuous fusion reaction is one thing, extracting power from it is entirely another problem that could take years to solve and then decades more before seeing it installed and powering residential areas.


Imagine how much more difficult and time consuming it would be for "green energy".
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:17 pm to
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To this as the very next series of words: quote: lowering greenhouse gases,


The only science that gets funded is research on lowering greenhouses gases and extending the lifespan of HIV+ gays. So no matter how beneficial your theory would be to humanity overall you have to find the right angle to sell it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:21 pm to
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overall you have to find the right angle to sell it.


Fear has been a very successful angle for quite a while. It works. Why would they change it?
Add a little guilt and you have a winning angle. "Do it for the children".
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50873 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:41 pm to
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So - injecting boron powder into plasma lowers greenhouse gasses.
All these years of using Borax to clean clothes, I ever knew I was doing my part to save the world!

I feel so proud of myself at this moment!

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94756 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:36 pm to
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They have said this for 40 years



I've been "burned" (sorry) by the fusion folks in the past, but it is down to an engineering problem now. It's not theoretical. We know how to do it. We just don't know how to do it with a net energy return yet.

But, when we do, it will be the next revolution (along with, as my son keeps telling me, AGI).

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82052 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:40 pm to
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Remember when hydrogen fuel cells were going to save the planet?

The fuel cell tech hasn't really been there for efficiency and mass adoption. Working in this industry, I can confirm it has been going absolutely apeshit the past 2 years. So far it is mainly for forklifts across the country. Sounds like a small market but it is the reason why the liquid hydrogen demand is growing the fastest that it has been in decades.

However, I don't see mass adoption for cars since Electric vehicles have a huge jump start so infrastructure resources will go to that over hydrogen fueling stations.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57895 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:50 pm to
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Establishing a stable, continuous fusion reaction is one thing, extracting power from it is entirely another problem that could take years to solve and then decades more before seeing it installed and powering residential areas.


My friend Marty already has one.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:01 pm to
Translation: Princeton scientists need more funding
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94756 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:14 pm to
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However, I don't see mass adoption for cars since Electric vehicles have a huge jump start so infrastructure resources will go to that over hydrogen fueling stations.



Yeah - it will have to make sense for a fleet - I think UPS tried it in some regions. Might make sense if the cost analysis works for a fleet runner like a government agency, Fedex, UPS, etc. Probably not going to be mass adopted for the near term precisely because of electric penetration and market acceptance as best alternative to gas/diesel.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4786 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:15 pm to
Next up Dyson Spheres
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:22 pm to
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The Oil Conglomerate will pay off, buy out, ruin financially anything deemed a threat.


I guess the free market doesn't sort everything out
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:23 pm to
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Remember when hydrogen fuel cells were going to save the planet?



Hell...I remember when you would be able to just put your garden hose in your gas tank in about 10 years!

Good times...good times!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:26 pm to
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Next up Dyson Spheres


Dyson Spheres are completely useless without an understanding of Jupiter Rings. First things first.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81929 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:38 pm to
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Princeton scientists claim we'll have hot fusion reactors in 10 years
Would give us massive energy. Almost an unimaginable amount.

Also further gives lie to the lefty physicists who predicted for decades that such massive amounts of energy would only be attainable in a post-Nation/State planet (Type-1).

frick those globalist assholes.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20459 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:08 pm to
I remember reading papers on how close we were in the 70’s
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27966 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:11 pm to
I’m sure that mixes well with affirmative action. What could go wrong?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19228 posts
Posted on 12/27/19 at 12:11 am to
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I'll bet we won't. It'll be all renewable and green by then (political choice).


Fusion is the ultimate green and renewable energy.
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