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President Trump vs. Mr. Trump
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:56 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:56 am
NYT
In this NY Times article updated this morning, the author repeatedly calls our president "Mr. Trump". The title just has "Trump". When discussing his opponent, he is "Former vice-president Joseph R. Biden".
This is glaring to me. The man is a week away from be re-elected, and they are still in denial that he is president.
A few samples:
In this NY Times article updated this morning, the author repeatedly calls our president "Mr. Trump". The title just has "Trump". When discussing his opponent, he is "Former vice-president Joseph R. Biden".
This is glaring to me. The man is a week away from be re-elected, and they are still in denial that he is president.
A few samples:
quote:
Soon after, she will confront a docket studded with major cases on Mr. Trump’s policies, not to mention a potential challenge to the election results that the president had cited as a reason he needed a full complement of justices before Nov. 3.
quote:
The court is also slated to act soon on a last-ditch attempt from Mr. Trump’s personal lawyers to block the release of his financial records to a grand jury in Manhattan.
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:58 am to NineLineBind
They've done this since 2016. It is the typical Journalist passive aggressive vagina move.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:59 am to NineLineBind
I'm not clicking a nyt article. But "Mr." is an appropriate manner of referring to the president.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:01 am to frankthetank
quote:
But "Mr." is an appropriate manner of referring to the president.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:01 am to Walkthedawg
It's not wrong. It's always been an appropriate way of referring to a president.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:02 am to NineLineBind
I hate what has become of the NYT. It’s always leaned left but now it is just straight up Fake News on all levels. So, frick the NYT with a red hot poker on the anus.
That being said, they have long had policy to call a President ‘President’ in the first mention and then by prefix and surname in all subsequent mentions...
That being said, they have long had policy to call a President ‘President’ in the first mention and then by prefix and surname in all subsequent mentions...
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:04 am to NineLineBind
I have commented on this in the past. I have no problem if they simply say Trump. But if you are going to use a title in conjunction with his name then use President Trump.....that mister shite infuriates me.....then again, I suppose that is why they do it.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:05 am to NineLineBind
Tons of new outlets around the world do this for public officials. It has nothing to do with Trump, and it’s perfectly appropriate.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 8:07 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:06 am to NineLineBind
Think about this, do you ever hear Mrs. Clinton? I always here Secretary or Madam Secretary when they address her.
And it would be respectful to say Mr. President not Mr Trump.
And it would be respectful to say Mr. President not Mr Trump.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 8:07 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:06 am to NineLineBind
DOCTOR Jill Biden!!!
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:07 am to NineLineBind
quote:Good Lord.
President Trump vs. Mr. Trump
The first reference to each man includes the honorifics, and subsequent references do not. Standard procedure since the price of newsprint rose above $0.00
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:09 am to frankthetank
quote:When do you remember even FOX News using the term "Mr. Obama"? Yeah, it was always "President Obama".
It's not wrong. It's always been an appropriate way of referring to a president.
It's nothing but butthurt and passive-aggressivism.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:11 am to NineLineBind
The same rule book that put the capital B in black.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:12 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:
They've done this since 2016
False.
They did it with Bush as well. There was a study during his second term that looked at the vernacular of the articles about him and found some absurd percentage refused to acknowledge the title of President.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:15 am to TigerAxeOK
quote:
When do you remember even FOX News using the term "Mr. Obama"? Yeah, it was always "President Obama".
It's nothing but butthurt and passive-aggressivism.
Why do you call him "Mr." Obama?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:15 am to NineLineBind
It is an industry standard to refer to someone by their title in the first mention in an article and then by their last name for the remainder of the article. Presidents receive a special disctinction by bring called Mr. for the remainder of the article. They did the same for Obama and leftists whined about it.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:16 am to NineLineBind
They've done this with every POTUS going back as far as I can remember.
Reagan in 1984:
Clinton in 1994:
Obama in 2010:
Reagan in 1984:
quote:
Incumbency has always been one of the strongest forces in Presidential politics. In 1984, advances in the staging of campaign events, President Reagan's skill as a performer and the communicative impact of television seem to have combined to turn incumbency into a political weapon of awesome potency.
Moreover, a ride on the White House re-election express suggests that, for better or worse, Mr. Reagan is pointing the way toward the campaign techniques of the future while Walter F. Mondale, the Democratic Party and the press appear to be re-enacting the rituals of elections past.
Since Labor Day, Mr. Mondale has insistently waged a campaign ''on the issues.'' The press, despite the traditional criticism that it is interested only in the ''horse race,'' has exhibited a consistent, detailed interest in such issues as the Federal deficit, tax policy and nuclear disarmament.
Clinton in 1994:
quote:
Behind the month of political barnstorming that President Clinton began this week lies a basic calculation by strategists in and out of the White House: unless Democrats do something, Republicans will walk away with the vast -- and growing -- bloc of voters who are dissatisfied with Washington and long for change.
It is a bloc that could wreck not only Democratic hopes for the midterm elections, never very robust, but also Mr. Clinton's re-election prospects two years later. And so the message that the President delivered at a political rally in Michigan on Tuesday, and will repeat through Nov. 8, is tailored for their ears: Democrats want a change for the better; Republicans want a change for the worse.
Obama in 2010:
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President Obama vowed Wednesday night not to give up on his ambitious legislative agenda, using his first State of the Union address to chastise Republicans for working in lock-step against him and to warn Democrats to stiffen their political spines.
Mr. Obama appealed for an end to the “tired old battles” that have divided the country and stalled his efforts on Capitol Hill. He promised to focus intently on the issue of most immediate concern to the nation, jobs. And with his top priority, a health care overhaul, delayed in the wake of the recent Republican Senate victory in Massachusetts, he offered a pointed message to both parties.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:20 am to frankthetank
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I'm not clicking a nyt article. But "Mr." is an appropriate manner of referring to the president.
Fine but apply the name equally across the political spectrum.
How many times have you heard Mr. Biden or Mr. Obama or Mr. Clinton or Ms. Clinton? Serious question.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:21 am to IslandBuckeye
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How many times have you heard Mr. Biden or Mr. Obama or Mr. Clinton or Ms. Clinton? Serious question.
All the time. Look at all the examples that have been linked.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 8:23 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:22 am to wareaglepete
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Think about this, do you ever hear Mrs. Clinton? I always here Secretary or Madam Secretary when they address her.
Hillary in 2016:
quote:
Hillary Clinton moved aggressively on Sunday to press her advantage in the presidential race, urging black voters in North Carolina to vote early and punish Republican officeholders for supporting Donald J. Trump, even as Mr. Trump’s party increasingly concedes he is unlikely to recover in the polls.
Aiming to turn her edge over Mr. Trump into an unbreakable lead, Mrs. Clinton has been pleading with core Democratic constituencies to get out and vote in states where balloting has already begun. By running up a lead well in advance of the Nov. 8 election in states like North Carolina and Florida, she could virtually eliminate Mr. Trump’s ability to make a late comeback.
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