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re: President Trump has a major announcement tomorrow concerning the border crisis.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:16 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:16 pm to GumboPot
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Trump will redirect military funding to build the wall.
How would he even do this legally? Please explain not with “because he can”, but with an actual understand of how DOD appropriations work and how it’s not just one big pot of money they can reallocate however they want to.
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:25 pm to foshizzle
Ah no deaths from terrorist illegals.
What if we just classify all deaths inflicted upon Americans by illegals as say..."unfortunate non terrorist events".
Can we move the debate forward now?
What if we just classify all deaths inflicted upon Americans by illegals as say..."unfortunate non terrorist events".
Can we move the debate forward now?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:36 pm to goatmilker
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Ah no deaths from terrorist illegals.
What if we just classify all deaths inflicted upon Americans by illegals as say..."unfortunate non terrorist events".
Can we move the debate forward now?
So I’m all for a stronger border, but you can’t just classify crime however you want to. Terrorism has a recognized definition and a terrorist is someone who uses violence and intimidation to achieve political ends. Even in instances of crime and violence involving illegal immigrants, it is impossible to interpret those acts as terrorism in all but the most extreme outliers (if even then).
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:40 pm to ScottieP
Exactly.
“Federal statute requires agencies to take reduction-in-force (RiF) action against employees who have been furloughed for 30 days or more, but that only applies in administrative furloughs, “a planned event by an agency which is designed to absorb reductions necessitated by downsizing, reduced funding, lack of work, or any budget situation other than a lapse in appropriations.”
“Furloughs of federal workers as a result of lapses in appropriation are called “emergency furloughs.” According to the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, reduction-in-force regulations don’t apply in such events:
“Reductions in force (RIF) furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements are not applicable to emergency shutdown furloughs because the ultimate duration of an emergency shutdown furlough is unknown at the outset and is dependent entirely on Congressional action, rather than agency action. The RIF furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements, on the other hand, contemplate planned, foreseeable, money-saving furloughs that, at the outset, are planned to exceed 30 days.”
“Federal statute requires agencies to take reduction-in-force (RiF) action against employees who have been furloughed for 30 days or more, but that only applies in administrative furloughs, “a planned event by an agency which is designed to absorb reductions necessitated by downsizing, reduced funding, lack of work, or any budget situation other than a lapse in appropriations.”
“Furloughs of federal workers as a result of lapses in appropriation are called “emergency furloughs.” According to the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, reduction-in-force regulations don’t apply in such events:
“Reductions in force (RIF) furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements are not applicable to emergency shutdown furloughs because the ultimate duration of an emergency shutdown furlough is unknown at the outset and is dependent entirely on Congressional action, rather than agency action. The RIF furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements, on the other hand, contemplate planned, foreseeable, money-saving furloughs that, at the outset, are planned to exceed 30 days.”
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:44 pm to GumboPot
If he can nail this announcement he will cap off a FANTASTIC last week or so.
- Grounding Pelosi
- Chinese trade deal
- Previous statement on the wall
- Mueller coming to Trump's defense (odd)
- The Clemson team dinner
- I'm sure I'm missing something
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:46 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
My favorite part about this board is that even just pointing out, without argument or insult, inaccurate understanding of how appropriations are managed, what can or can’t be classified as terrorism by definition, and dispelling myths over when you can and can’t cite administrative furlough regulations to fire federal employees, there are some automatic down votes. The resistance to refining your views based upon new knowledge is astounding in here.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:47 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:
he can nail this announcement he will cap off a FANTASTIC last week or so.
- Grounding Pelosi
- Chinese trade deal
- Previous statement on the wall
- Mueller coming to Trump's defense (odd)
- The Clemson team dinner
- I'm sure I'm missing something
Prolly nailed Melania at some point
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:41 pm to bamarep
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Says the only fricking state in the union that doesn't have a border to protect.
2000 miles of water does wonders to keep unwanted invaders out.
Ironic because Hawaiian natives still hate mainlanders and want them to leave.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:21 pm to Dale51
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Rules that only say they have to issue a second notice.. there are no other rules, this is a shutdown furlough not an administrative furlough. they are really struggling to understand this
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What difference, at this point, does it make?
Because boy wonder thinks that after 30 days of furlough the government has to institute a RIF even though he's been told that RIFs will not occur due to it being a shutdown furlough.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:26 pm to ScottieP
Not a fan of the emergency declaration but it does provide the opportunity to get more funding, more wall, bypass some environmental refs, and probably provide a workaround on some of the legal loopholes currently used for asylum seekers. All this without having to negotiate with Dems to give them up some things to make this happen.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:43 pm to TimeOutdoors
CNN reporting that he’s making an offer to bring Dems back to the table.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:50 pm to IllegalPete
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Ironic because Hawaiian natives still hate mainlanders and want them to leave.
Hawaii would be Haiti without the US.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:03 pm to LSUGrrrl
Can he ground congress to DC without pay until this is figured out?
That is the most popular move
That is the most popular move
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:06 pm to GumboPot
He is taking Ole Nancy's toy away 
Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:24 am to foshizzle
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I'll be enjoying delicious tacos at the food truck down the street.
Kinda racist, no?
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:06 am to NPComb
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Hawaii would be Haiti without the US.
Not even close. Location alone places Hawaii in a great position for involvement in shipping and air transportation across the Pacific. Add to that the fact that Asaian nation vacation there heavily (I was in Waikiki last year and the tourists from the East drastically outnumbered tourists from the West) and the fact that they actually produce a few exports and it’s pretty clear you are incorrect.
I’m not sure how you could make such a poor comparison. That said, a casual reading of the rest of this Poli Board provides plenty of examples of unfounded exaggeration and slander, so at least you have company.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:07 am to crazyatthecamp
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Can he ground congress to DC without pay until this is figured out?
Co-equal branch of the government.
They control their expenses, not him.
He has no say in their administration or management.
So no.
He can simply keep them from using military aircraft for travel.
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