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re: PPI blows through expectations - over 3x higher than expected
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:41 am to Mandtgr47
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:41 am to Mandtgr47
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dude, everyone on this board saw you daily bleeding all over the board about your $3k
No, I made an offhand remark and you dipshits created an entire fairy tale. My comments had to do with one of my 4 retirement accounts, one I had already petitioned for withdrawal.
Because youre nothing but gossipy women.
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:41 am to DrrTiger
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Isn’t that the ultimate point of these tariffs? The producer of the foreign-made product has to compete on price or else the consumer will find an alternative, preferably one made here.
that's the point.....we have choices. Buy American...which is actually supporting a stronger country, and helping bring back manufacturing. This is way over their head though...and even if it isn't, they just need a reason to celebrate. They don't have much of a reason these days with the Dem party.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:42 am to DrrTiger
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Isn’t that the ultimate point of these tariffs? The producer of the foreign-made product has to compete on price or else the consumer will find an alternative, preferably one made here.
That's why prices are going up. It's cheaper to make things in other countries (for a variety of reasons, but that's more complex than we need to get into in this thread) so we buy it from them. That's why we have a trade deficit, we want to buy things from other countries. If the cost to buy that thing from another country is inflated via tariffs, the option is now an expensive-to-make thing from the US, or an artificially expensive-to-make thing from foreign country. The consumer is the loser because they have to bear the new cost.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:42 am to Mandtgr47
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that's the point.....we have choices. Buy American...which is actually supporting a stronger country, and helping bring back manufacturing. This is way over their head though
In your home, probably half the stuff is made in China, even if assembled in the USA.
We're just not as naive as you.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:43 am to slackster
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PPI blows through expectations - over 3x higher than expected
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.9% month over month
RAISE RATES NOW, Jerome, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:44 am to slackster
Presuming all of this is tariff related (it's not, but some of it probably is), bear in mind tariff inflation is a "one off."
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:44 am to Mandtgr47
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that's the point.....we have choices. Buy American...which is actually supporting a stronger country, and helping bring back manufacturing
Why is the government enacting tariffs to force me to buy what Washington DC wants me to buy? That's not a choice, that's not free trade. That's DC picking winners and losers, and getting rich off taxes in the process.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:44 am to Nosevens
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Does it have to be one or the other?
Well, yes. You can't achieve both goals with these tariffs because they are at odds with each other. If other countries drop their tariffs, then there is no motivation for those manufacturing jobs to return.
If they don't, then Americans pay more for the products they are paying less for today. Even if they are buying them made in the USA.
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If manufacturing comes back is that a bad thing?
Economically, yes. The average factory worker in the US makes $17 an hour. We're not talking about jobs that are going to revolutionize the middle class. They won't even move the needle. They are basically one tiny step up from minimum wage McDonald's type jobs.
And yet, that wage is much higher than in Mexico or China. Average $4.80 in Mexico and around $6 an hour in China (and those are not "slave wages" for those countries...people can probably live better there on those wages than Americans can on $17 an hour here).
So we pay more for products and get a bunch of low wage paying jobs in return.
What about that sounds good to you?
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:45 am to Gifman
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Time for the panicans to come out and play only to go into complete denial/obfuscation mode in about 3-4 months. It’s a predictable process.
They were right there at the start of the thread - absolutely giddy!
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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quote: Albeit with Labor Force Participation Rates at 50 year lows Aging population, huge black market, lots of inheritance floating around.
what a boomer take
Young folks are just lounging about on inheritance and/or selling stuff for
cash from their trunks.
Young folks graduating with biz degrees and 70k in college debt sending out 1000s of job applications...nope total myth
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:48 am to Ingeniero
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If the cost to buy that thing from another country is inflated via tariffs, the option is now an expensive-to-make thing from the US, or an artificially expensive-to-make thing from foreign country
Or the foreign entity eats the tariff (or a large percentage of it) to keep its market share in the greatest consumer economy in the world.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:49 am to scottydoesntknow
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Young folks are just lounging about on inheritance and/or selling stuff for
cash from their trunks.
You generalize far too much.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:51 am to FATBOY TIGER
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Do you have a link to prove your point?
"Excluding food and energy prices, core PPI rose 0.9% against the forecast for 0.3%. Excluding food, energy and trade services, the index was up 0.6%, the biggest gain since March 2022."
Why exclude these items from their findings?
As has been explained probably 1000x the past several years, food and energy are extremely volatile compared to the other items measured and are much less correlated to FED action.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:51 am to GumboPot
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There are tariffs on services?
What ever it takes to scratch that TDS itch.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:53 am to DrrTiger
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Or the foreign entity eats the tariff (or a large percentage of it) to keep its market share in the greatest consumer economy in the world.
Do you know who cannot do that?
Small and medium businesses.
So, do you know which segment of America these tariffs protect?
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You generalize far too much.
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RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
I find it pathetic when men as old as dirt like you will cling to some outdated wrong “wisdom” even after months of being made to look like a total fool.
Boomer Roger is the worse type of Boomer
Boomer Roger is the worse type of Boomer
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:55 am to wackatimesthree
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Economically, yes. The average factory worker in the US makes $17 an hour. We're not talking about jobs that are going to revolutionize the middle class. They won't even move the needle. They are basically one tiny step up from minimum wage McDonald's type jobs.
So you think people are passing up "middle class" career opportunities to work for $17/hr in a factory?
You are operating under the myth that there are jobs out there if folks were just a little more educated or something.
Maybe if they were starting new businesses....with what money? Banks dont lend on production anymore. They lend on asset acquisition.
Who can afford assets??? Boomers and Xers of course
Boomers and Xers are desperate to keep prices low for the remainder of their lives...at all costs.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:56 am to td01241
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I find it pathetic when men as old as dirt like you will cling to some outdated wrong “wisdom” even after months of being made to look like a total fool.
This level of "Jerry Springer: is all you MAGA baws have left. Literally.
You cant discuss issues, you have to attack the source or poster because you people are simpletons.
MAGA =/= all Trump voters. Its just the loyalists.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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quote: Young folks are just lounging about on inheritance and/or selling stuff for cash from their trunks. You generalize far too much.
I repeated what you said you dolt.
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