POTUS 2024, who is the real winner here?

Haley? Nah.

I'm under 60.

No one won today. We just got more confirmation of how much danger we are in, and that we may not even make it to November.

- We have an administration that has levied war against the nation via the border (and other means), which is defined as treason by Article III of the Constitution.

- Biden has clearly ordered the DOJ to go after his political adversary:
November 9, 2022 - Biden addressed the prospect of Trump taking the White House once again.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by — if we — if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.
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- That same DOJ has determined that Biden is not competent.

- That same DOJ cleared Biden of the same thing they are prosecuting Trump for.

- Either the DOJ is right about Biden's brain and is taking orders from a crazy person to prosecute a political opponent, OR, they are wrong. If they are wrong, then they have no credibility and the case against Trump has to be dismissed immediately. If they are taking orders from a crazy person, then the case has to be dismissed immediately, because that would again call into question their motives, their own competency, and their integrity.

- We have a President conducting treason against the nation and seemingly not competent, and his Cabinet has done nothing. Either they are onboard with treason or they are also incompetent.

- All Americans lost today. Our government is treasonous and that treason is real, regardless of intent or mental competency - harm has been done to this nation. You can argue culpability, but you can't argue the damage.

- On top of this, our national leadership was outclassed via Tucker's interview with Putin, who is sharper than the combined intellect of our national security enterprise, clearly.

- Congress has completely abandoned our border and the safety of this nation, which is a Constitutional obligation. They and the White House attempted to blackmail and coerce the public to give support to a bill that was disastrous for our sovereignty and foreign affairs. In turn, rather than focus on our sovereignty and the clearest threat to the nation at this time (our border), they sidelined the border issue in favor of a hundred billion dollars of our money to go to other nations to protect their borders. It's beyond obvious that Ukraine has nothing to do with security and everything to do with maintaining the money laundering enterprise, while the side effects are the weakening of our nation, erosion of our security, and destruction of our credibility around the world. This qualifies as treason, IMO.

- We have a complete betrayal of this nation by the Executive and Legislative branches and if we broaden the examination window just a bit, the Judiciary is in the same boat.

- At some point it's time to give people like myself a chance. Look where our nation is: it's been led since the close of WWII by people like Chuck Schumer. Schumer was born in 1950. In 1975, after going to Harvard, he entered politics, and has never left. Half a century in politics, several years at Harvard, and not a single day of his adult life in the real world, with real Americans, dealing with real issues. How many times are we going to see the Ivy League in the biographies of these people and still not learn a lesson about what the Ivy League produces?

- You do what you've always done and you get what you always got. Our nation has been systematically weakened and our government is now attempting the controlled demolition of this nation. It's time to go in a different direction and vote for some new people.

- There are fewer than 10 people on the ballot in November at the federal level, that deserve your consideration. The rest either supported Ukraine money laundering or McCarthy as Speaker, or both. These two litmus tests are all you need, and if a border bill comes to a vote, that will be a third.

- Stop voting for incumbents and especially do not vote for a Democrat, at any level: local, state, or federal.

We all lost today. Hopefully we make it to November because that is our last chance.

I’m ok with someone under fricking 70……

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- At some point it's time to give people like myself a chance. Look where our nation is: it's been led since the close of WWII by people like Chuck Schumer. Schumer was born in 1950. In 1975, after going to Harvard, he entered politics, and has never left. Half a century in politics, several years at Harvard, and not a single day of his adult life in the real world, with real Americans, dealing with real issues. How many times are we going to see the Ivy League in the biographies of these people and still not learn a lesson about what the Ivy League produces?

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My brother, you are preaching to the choir!


Since World War II, list the POTUS (D) or (R) who did not have this in their resume.

#1 Ivy League school
#2 Service Academy (especially West Point)
#3 Near Ivy League school (Stanford, Duke, UVA, UM, and such)
#4 Private college of note
#5 Spend most of life on E / W Coast or upper MW big city MSA (like Chicago)
#6 Actual close family ties to the 1% of the 1% of the 1%
#7 Never had a working class job in their life (like flipping burgers or such)

Since World War II, list the SCOTUS (D) or (R) who did not have this in their resume.

#1 Ivy League school
#2 Service Academy (especially West Point)
#3 Near Ivy League school (Stanford, Duke, UVA, UM, and such)
#4 Private college of note
#5 Spend most of life on E / W Coast or upper MW big city MSA (like Chicago)
#6 Actual close family ties to the 1% of the 1% of the 1%
#7 Never had a working class job in their life (like flipping burgers or such)



The most inbred city in the USA is not in the South, it is in the East Coast corridor and I will bet you 99 out of 100 on this board have never been there in person.

Your perspective will not be taken well…..however accurate it is.

I was familiar with him reading various literature on him and following him regularly in the late 80s into the 90s (and beyond). It was increased when I became friends with people who were actual former small business owners in NJ that were involved in his casino developments.

This eco chamber wants nothing to do with facts/reality when it is counter to their idealistic view of him. It’s actually not very complex…..he is the conduit of release for the pent-up anger and gives them a “voice” in their minds. Don’t dare threaten that.

For what’s at hand, it may be a pinch your nose and vote.

I am an avid Greg Abbott supporter and traditional leaning conservative that will consider LOGICAL points in a modern society. I detest the Dem/Prog agenda because it is truly eroding America. I have professionally fallen victim to said agenda……I’ve lived it. But, I will not canonize someone like DJT. I get people voting for him but save me the Koolaidfest.

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- At some point it's time to give people like myself a chance

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And what is your name? POTUS2024 won’t be on the ballot. Produce a name or STFU!

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And what is your name? POTUS2024 won’t be on the ballot. Produce a name or STFU!

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Charles Todd Sullivan

Is this a generational thing? My father is working in a high level government job and he’s almost 80. He could have retired (with an Army retirement, Gov retirement and whatever the thrift savings scam is that gov employees participate in) but he won’t. He grew up poor and I think that’s the issue but it could just be his generation. He’s still the best at his job, but I would think he’d want to retire, especially with the shite show the government has become.

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Wake up Merica and elect a POTUS under 60!

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Why am I not surprised that you would promote Gavin Newsom.

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frick off dumbass

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Congrats for the grade school level response.

What would you propose in lieu of 2 old farts at the pinnacle of power and both already senile?

If you are the genius, please let me know your wisdom?