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re: Potential Terrorist/BLM Shooting Spree in Fresno

Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:38 pm to
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Gotta throw some BLM in there regardless. Extra upvotes and anger plus if they have nothing to do with it it's not like he'll have any accountability on this board. Win win.



What? I'm being roundly criticized, and am still in here posting.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:38 pm to
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whoa, bud. NOI is based in black empowerment. BLM is based in VERY similar beliefs


This is true but like you said should not be conflated with islamic radicals.

NOI for all intents and purposes was the original BLM group here. Just a little more out there, but way more of a black group than really anything to do with Islam.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:39 pm to
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I heard the guy was also a globalist.

if he's an Islamist (or worse, Jihadist), then by the very nature of those beliefs he's a globalist
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:40 pm to
the Nation wishes they were as big as BLM is right now
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:40 pm to
Sure in this thread. But come on tomorrow and no one will remember it. No one remembers the stupid Obamagate stickies. But have some insane liberal idea here and you'll never be able to post again.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:41 pm to
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I think their point is that he has a closer connection to radical Islam than to BLM. He yelled Aluha Akkbar, and all. (But, did you say that was not in the original article linked?)



Yeah, when it was first posted, it just said the "he hates white people" part. I think someone quoted that in this thread, and I remarked LAT may be leaving the "allahu akbar" part out on purpose, and then LAT added that line to match the other reporting that was out there.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:41 pm to
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So black empowerment = terrorism?

Two police massacres later and it's starting to look like that.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:41 pm to
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CIA false flag...right?

Wasn't Ron Paul in Fresno a couple weeks ago?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:41 pm to
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What?!

What is BLM? Who is there leader? Where are their Head quarters?


Not sure of the point you are making. I agree, that a connection with BLM from this guy is tenuous, at best...but his point that the guy might have latched on to some of their more radical ideas and statements would ring more true if it is so loosely based that they have no clear leader, or agenda.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:43 pm to
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the Nation wishes they were as big as BLM is right now


correct they just aren't as 'mainstream' as BLM not to mention they didn't have social media and the same media complex to carry as much water for them as BLM.

NOI has advocated violence making them an extremist (possibly terrorist) group. I haven't seen as much of that from BLM although it is there.

Both are black 'empowerment' groups that border on black supremacist groups (and no one can tell me that's not a real thing). Although I think BLM has much better intentions for the most part.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:44 pm to
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Two police massacres later and it's starting to look like that.



Yea to someone who is stupid.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:45 pm to
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But shouted Allah Akbar? How would that tie him to BLM?


By being a lying racist?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62085 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:45 pm to
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Gotta throw some BLM in there regardless. Extra upvotes and anger plus if they have nothing to do with it it's not like he'll have any accountability on this board. Win win.


Come on, man. There are at least 3 people who have questioned his use of BLM.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:46 pm to
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but his point that the guy might have latched on to some of their more radical ideas and statements would ring more true if it is so loosely based that they have no clear leader, or agenda.

that wasn't really my point

we were discussing the potential "BLM v. muslim" debate for his motives

i was just saying there isn't much overlap between that kind of Islam and BLM...but he could be a "muslim" via NOI and be more in line with BLM

it was like an aside that's been dissected way too much
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:47 pm to
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quote:
whoa, bud. NOI is based in black empowerment. BLM is based in VERY similar beliefs



So black empowerment = terrorism?


quote:

The Southern Poverty Law Center tracks the NOI as a hate group


From wiki
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:48 pm to
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What is BLM? Who is there leader? Where are their Head quarters?


1 A balck racist organization.

2 The loudest black racist of the day.

3 In their hearts and in their racist minds.

You know...like the KKK.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:49 pm to
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we were discussing the potential "BLM v. muslim" debate for his motives


Can you name me one confirmed BLM terrorist attacks? To act as if BLM commit acts of terror is pushing this false narrative that anything someone of color does is tied to BLM. Which isn't true. If that dumbass in Cleveland would have shot a white man yall would be claiming he was BLM.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62085 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:49 pm to
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Sure in this thread. But come on tomorrow and no one will remember it. No one remembers the stupid Obamagate stickies. But have some insane liberal idea here and you'll never be able to post again.


Come on. Are you saying you haven't seen some insane left stuff posted on this board...and those posters are still here. Am I missing something?
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:50 pm to
Amazing that MSNBC hasn't even mentioned this.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62085 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

But shouted Allah Akbar? How would that tie him to BLM?

quote:

By being a lying racist?


That ties him to being Islamic, not BLM. Hey, I don't care for BLM. But, let's be real and honest, here, or we become just like the MSM.
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