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re: Pope Francis extends Catholic priests' right to forgive abortion
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:21 pm to Oxford Town
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:21 pm to Oxford Town
This is true. This is the Act of Contrition I always pray during Confession (notice that it only mentions Christ and God):
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:23 pm to tke857
This article and the translation is slightly misleading. Catholic priests have always had the ability to forgive the sin of abortion. However, one who goes through the abortion - according to Canon Law - is automatically ex-communicated from the Church. Only a bishop can rescind an ex-communication.
What Pope Francis is doing here is allowing his priests to also rescind ex-communications for those who have gotten abortions.
What Pope Francis is doing here is allowing his priests to also rescind ex-communications for those who have gotten abortions.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:09 pm to tke857
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#NotMyPope. He's a joke.
And yes I am born and raised Catholic. I've said it before, here on this site, that I do not agree with everything this Pope says or does. That's MY opinion.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:13 pm to el Gaucho
They will complain about seeing more overweight women beating their kids around at Walmart and McDonald's.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:24 pm to tke857
Thou Shalt Not Kill
Still a sin
Still a sin
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:25 pm to DupontsCircle
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FWIW as a Protestant I believe all sins are forgivable by God. I still can't figure out what right a priest has to do it.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:29 pm to GurleyGirl
Read John 20:23. That is where the Catholic Church claims that Christ gave men the authority to forgive sins in His name.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:52 pm to GumboPot
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God's mercy has always been infinite for the contrite.
Amen.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:53 pm to RollTide1987
I've posted that verse. Most have ignored it and one did some serious mental gymnastics to show that Jesus didn't really say what He said.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:51 pm to tke857
Francis is to Catholicism what obama is to the USA.
Screw Francis and obama. MAGA.
Screw Francis and obama. MAGA.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:56 pm to tke857
We need an Anti-Pope right now.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:28 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Can't catholic priests already forgive murder? Seems redundant.
Murder carries a latae sentitae (automatic) excommunication. An individual excommunicates themselves by committing the act. This is in contrast to latae ferendae excommunication which is issued by a tribunal.
Excommunication can typically be lifted only by a bishop. It's already common practice in the West for bishops to delegate the authority to priests to lift a latae sentitae excommunication. This is more practical since the penitent doesn't have to seek out the bishop, or have the priest go to the bishop, repeat what he heard in confession, and go back to the penitent.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:31 pm to 4cubbies
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The priest hearing confession is in persona Christi, acting on behalf of Jesus, not simply a priest.
It sounds like you don't understand the sacrament of reconciliation.
Correct.
In this context, think of it like power of attorney.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:13 pm to tke857
Since when does the Pope decide he can and can't be forgiven? What happened to God?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:27 pm to tke857
He must have seen the election results and realize he needs to appease his money base for the church.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:30 pm to pcolatiger28
quote:I don't think the Pope as ever said somebody can't ever be forgiven, he's just apparently broadening the priest's application of reconciliation to abortion (like other "sins").
Since when does the Pope decide he can and can't be forgiven?
quote:I get the criticism of this sacrament, but it's like some of you have never heard of it before.
What happened to God?
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:30 pm to pcolatiger28
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Since when does the Pope decide he can and can't be forgiven? What happened to God?
That's been asked and answered numerous times in this thread. In short, the Pope didn't decide. Jesus did.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:35 pm to DupontsCircle
The fact that choose to disregard 1,500 years of consistent Christian tradition is really arrogant.
Please tell us in your expert opinion what Jesus was referring to? Ok, now realize that some really smart theologians disagree with you.
I think if I have to side with someone, I think I will go with Thomas Aquinas over DupontsCircle.
Please tell us in your expert opinion what Jesus was referring to? Ok, now realize that some really smart theologians disagree with you.
I think if I have to side with someone, I think I will go with Thomas Aquinas over DupontsCircle.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:38 pm to tke857
Pope "little satan" cant abridge, amend Big S sins. He is beyond his authority and has entered the comedy realm.
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