re: Poliboard Poll: Should Convicted Felons get rights restored?

I don’t understand the logic of this thread.

It seems to be well laid out the lifetime sentence of committing a felony in terms of some of your general rights. Why does the completion of part of your sentence end the other parts?

They can petition the law to change it, but the loss of rights for life is part of the original punishment. Don’t do the crime if you aren’t prepared for the consequences.

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What about perjury traps and process crimes that were only charged after, say, the FBI became so frustrated with you for their being wrong about what they first came after you for? Manufactured one of those charges against you out of spite. Seems like we've seen this corrupt act time and time again. So what about cases like that?

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Then you petition to get your rights back. It happens and people do get them back.

Of course. That's the current reality of the situation. I figured I was just responding to the hypothetical concept of it not being allowed under the law at all. Perhaps my shot missed the target. I ain't gonna lie, it happens with davyjones.

According to the law ....every citizen does not have the right to vote, nor to bear arms .....

Most people do not realize that the simple Felony Charge goes on your record. You don't have to be convicted.

Example: Florida passed the Jessica Lundsford Act. It dictated that anyone with a FELONY could not go onto school property. All contractors ...everyone was under the law.

Overnight, our Official's Association lost 100 members.
Two were ridiculous because of untried, unconvicted Felonies.

One in particular .... Navy Seaman, returning from Viet Nam. Once on shore in the US, getting out of the Navy. Leaving the ship, he's stopped and searched. About a pound of Marijuana in his bag. Because he's on US soil, charged with possession. It was never tried, because the Navy was giving him his discharge. The simple charge got him booted out until the Florida Legislation got hammered by the oversight. The law was amended to remove simple charge and no trial situations.

All rights bestowed upon us by our founding fathers should be restored; however, voting wasn’t viewed as a right but rather a privilege.

So, no to voting. A convicted felon has demonstrated lack of judgment on a massive scale, why would I want them making decisions for me and my family.

In this country we have made voting a human right. It was never meant to be that, it was meant to be a privilege bestowed upon land owners. Land owners at the time were considered people who made smart decisions and who had something to lose if this experiment went down the tubes.

My personal feelings are if you paid your debt as charged then you should upon completion regain your rights.

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I believe they can petition to have their rights restored and some do. I'm good with that.

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Amen. Same.

Once they've paid their debt to society, yes.

If they're that bad they should still be in prison.

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After someone is convicted of a felony, after they serve their sentence, should they be able to own a firearm and vote, or is the felony label a scarlet letter they should wear forever?

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If the felony was not one of violence, then I think they should have their right to own a firearm restored. If the felony is one of violence, then that is a scarlet letter for firearm, forever, IMHO.

A felon should never have the right to vote restored.

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BamaCoaster

One of those is not like the others.

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I have worked in law enforcement and seen the effects of drug dealing to both users and dealers. Too many innocent people get hurt in the drug trade. People who peddle narcotics are scum and not redeemable.