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re: Plot Twist: Truth Social tipped off the FBI about Craig Robertson
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:19 am to bhtigerfan
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:19 am to bhtigerfan
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Based on the fact that they knew if they did an armed raid at his home, that he was more likely to resist with force. It’s called common fricking sense.
Were they not armed in previous visits to his home?
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He threatened to kill the President in Utah right? So you surveil him when the President is in town. If he gets in his vehicle, you make a road stop with several law enforcement vehicles. Once again, a suspect in a vehicle is way more vulnerable to gunfire, and most likely lightly armed while driving a vehicle than they are in their home.
So you let him leave a controlled environment, go for a drive, and hope that when you stop him, it's in a good spot where you have an advantage with no bystanders?
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:20 am to bhtigerfan
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Believe what you want moron, but the fact remains that there are many more safer ways to apprehend a suspect than to roll up on their home with a SWAT team.
You watch too much TV and/or play too many video games.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:24 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Okay Mickey, you are a LEO in charge of apprehending a suspect. Your supervisors tell you, “Mickey, this guy has some information that we desperately need. We need you to take him alive so we can interrogate him. We need this information from him.”
It is not some novel plot for law enforcement to show up outside a person's home with an arrest warrant and order them outside with their hands up. That is not unreasonable in any way.
Do you conduct a SWAT raid on his home, or do you devise another plan where you can apprehend him by surprise thus mitigating the chance of resistance and thus the killing of the suspect?
What do you do Mickey?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:27 am to boosiebadazz
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What should the FBI have done differently?
Just aim to wound him in the legs... Come on, man!!
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:28 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:You don’t see a difference between two “armed” FBI agents conducting a visit to someone’s home, and a fricking FBI SWAT team surrounding someone’s home?
Were they not armed in previous visits to his home?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:29 am to bhtigerfan
You can keep calling it a swat raid to make it sound overly aggressive, but in reality, law enforcement showed up at his home with a warrant and ordered him to come outside with his hands up. They didn't break down his door and rush him.
Under no circumstances do you wait to surprise a suspect, known to always carry a gun on him, in a more public space. That is idiotic.
Under no circumstances do you wait to surprise a suspect, known to always carry a gun on him, in a more public space. That is idiotic.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:30 am to bhtigerfan
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You don’t see a difference between two “armed” FBI agents conducting a visit to someone’s home, and a fricking FBI SWAT team surrounding someone’s home?
Does one justify resisting and pointing a gun at them while the other doesn't?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:31 am to bhtigerfan
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You don’t see a difference between two “armed” FBI agents conducting a visit to someone’s home, and a fricking FBI SWAT team surrounding someone’s home?
You didn't answer the question.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Uh, yeah.
So you let him leave a controlled environment, go for a drive, and hope that when you stop him, it's in a good spot where you have an advantage with no bystanders?
If you let him leave his home and do a successful traffic stop and find a ghillie suit and rifle in his trunk, then I think the case against him is much stronger.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 11:40 am
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Are you law enforcement?
You watch too much TV and/or play too many video games.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:32 am to bhtigerfan
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Uh, yeah.
If you let him leave his home and do a successful traffic stop and find a grille suit and rifle in his trunk, then I think the case against him is much stronger.
No, you fricking don't.
JFC.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:32 am to bhtigerfan
No. I'm retired.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:33 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Once again, the suspect was a 75 overweight man who used a cane.
Under no circumstances do you wait to surprise a suspect, known to always carry a gun on him, in a more public space. That is idiotic.
Y’all act like he was John Wick.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:34 am to bhtigerfan
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If you let him leave his home and do a successful traffic stop and find a grille suit and rifle in his trunk, then I think the case against him is much stronger.
Are you going to tell every lady enforcement agency that they've been doing this wrong for many decades?
Try your local PD and offer your better alternatives.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:34 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Well were you in law enforcement?
No. I'm retired.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:34 am to Fun Bunch
The man should have definitely been on their radar and likely brought in for questioning and a serious reality check.
Also, the 80 year old disabled veteran with no criminal record and with an ignorant attitude towards mouthing off online should not have been gunned down in his home by federal authorities.
Also, the 80 year old disabled veteran with no criminal record and with an ignorant attitude towards mouthing off online should not have been gunned down in his home by federal authorities.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:35 am to Upperdecker
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I support this action by Truth Social. Violence is not the answer
Agreed. However, it may ultimately be the only option when all else fails. Historically, there have been myriad times when peaceful action only led to being wholly oppressed.
Now is definitely not that time, and I hope we never see it.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:37 am to GRTiger
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Also, the 80 year old disabled veteran with no criminal record and with an ignorant attitude towards mouthing off online should not have been gunned down in his home by federal authorities.
Did you witness the event?
Yeah, didn't think so.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:38 am to bhtigerfan
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Once again, the suspect was a 75 overweight man who used a cane.
Y’all act like he was John Wick
So lets wait until he is behind the wheel of a car, still armed with a gun mind you, to make the arrest? If he wouldn't simply walk out of his house, what makes you think giving him the threat of using his car against people is a good idea?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:38 am to idlewatcher
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I don't care what side you are on, if you make threats against the life of any President, you deserve what you get. Nice of social media to be playing cop though
You don't deserve death for making a threat, unless you are a very credible. Investigated? Surely. Vetted for actual threat factor? You bet. He was clearly made an example for all of us to fear.
ANY time the state takes a life with intent, it should be FULLY exposed as to why. This one doesn't add up to killing him.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 11:40 am
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