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re: Piers Morgan is about to out the officer that killed Ashlii Babbit
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:45 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:45 am to Pettifogger
This was a staged event with some useful idiots that got mixed in.
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:46 am to OMLandshark
Is there any doubt the Media has known the name for months but refuses to report on it?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:47 am to monstranceclock76
quote:yep. You can say that for most major events like this. A lot of the BLM riots were the same way. It doesn’t take much for a couple of bad actors to set a crowd of emotional people into a wild mob
This was a staged event with some useful idiots that got mixed in.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:48 am to Pettifogger
quote:
think calling Jan 6 a mob event or an attempt to impede democracy has legs and can be argued. I don't think it was terrorism or an insurrection or a coup, etc.
I’ve never heard of “attempt to impede democracy” before and that seems like a bridge too far to me.
Unlawful protest or riot is all it is.
Dems act so incredulous about a protest occurring in the capital but isn’t that where you are supposed to take your grievances??? Why is it ok to trash a Target because I’m upset with the government but not natural to actually get in the faces of who is responsible for shitty laws???
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:49 am to Pelican fan99
quote:
It doesn’t take much for a couple of bad actors to set a crowd of emotional people into a wild mob
You are 100% correct.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:54 am to Robin Masters
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I’ve never heard of “attempt to impede democracy” before and that seems like a bridge too far to me.
Oh I'm sure nobody on this board will agree, but if you believe the basis for the effort was illegitimate - and I think you can easily and reasonably do so - then it was an effort to interrupt the democratic process.
Now, some will probably argue that it differs from a coup or the like because they merely wanted to delay something until facts could come to light, investigation could be done, etc. and I think that's a legitimate consideration and probably true. But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence. They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.
But anyway, I said it was arguable and I think it is. I don't think "insurrection" is arguable for the reasons already stated.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:03 am to OMLandshark
We have to assume that the authorities have either finished their investigation, and/or have decided not to prosecute the killer. If they are not going to prosecute him, I think protecting his privacy is the right call. Disclosing the name of this person, who is innocent in the eyes of the law, will just invite street justice. I’m against making his name public.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:04 am to HonoraryCoonass
It’s already public. What’s your next wish?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:05 am to Eurocat
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I find it odd that so many of the board are angry at this officer. This woman was told time and time and time again to stop, go away, back off, and when she didn't, what happened happened.
Stop. It has not been established that any officer commanded Babbitt to do or not do anything. That evidence does not exist and you know it. Otherwise you would have posted it.
You also have to know that any law enforcement force continuum does not work that way. Not a single LEO in this country is trained to escalate to lethal force when the only threat is verbal noncompliance.
You're spreading lies. Your words are thought cancer. Post less.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:05 am to HonoraryCoonass
quote:
We have to assume that the authorities have either finished their investigation, and/or have decided not to prosecute the killer. If they are not going to prosecute him, I think protecting his privacy is the right call. Disclosing the name of this person, who is innocent in the eyes of the law, will just invite street justice. I’m against making his name public.
I understand the sentiment but it doesn't work like this, or shouldn't
When a cop charged with protecting representatives of the people is alleged to have lawfully shot a citizen in the act, the people have every right to know about the circumstances involved.
It's our building, we pay for the cops, we pay for the reps the cops protect, etc.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:18 am to Pettifogger
quote:
I'm sure nobody on this board will agree, but if you believe the basis for the effort was illegitimate - and I think you can easily and reasonably do so - then it was an effort to interrupt the democratic process.
Now, some will probably argue that it differs from a coup or the like because they merely wanted to delay something until facts could come to light, investigation could be done, etc. and I think that's a legitimate consideration and probably true. But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence. They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.
But anyway, I said it was arguable and I think it is. I don't think "insurrection" is arguable for the reasons already stated.
I hear what you are saying but I think (not a lawyer mind you) all of what you are implying should require some premeditated and organized action on at least a few co-conspirators as proof. Maybe that proof exists but absent that all you really have is a pissed off mob.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:39 am to HonoraryCoonass
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I’m against making his name public.
Would you feel the same way if it was your sister or brother who was killed? Or perhaps, your mom or dad? Be honest!
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:43 am to Eurocat
That is solely for black peoples. come on man.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:07 am to themunch
BLM damages are estimated up to 2B. Not even close to the same
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:15 am to Lutcher Lad
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Would you feel the same way if it was your sister or brother who was killed? Or perhaps, your mom or dad? Be honest!
You are asking me to make an emotional response. Legal decisions should be made devoid of emotions, and should be made looking at evidence, and the law, only.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:20 am to OMLandshark
Have to wonder if that cop was a big scared pussy or a racist. Maybe both.
As has been said before, imagine if he had been white and the veteran woman had been black.
As has been said before, imagine if he had been white and the veteran woman had been black.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:24 am to OMLandshark
someone murdered an unarmed female peaceful protestor in a public building. we need to find the murderer....right?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:25 am to Pettifogger
quote:
You found weeks of incidents where a billion plus in private property was destroyed (destroying livelihoods of innocents) and scores were murdered "just as bad" as a protest that got out of control and killed nobody and did minimal damage and injury?
Minimal damage????
Did you not see the water bottles that were left behind. THE HORROR. I mean that patriot in the blue suit risked his life to pick them up.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:53 am to Jinks
Nope not at all , you know people don’t kill people . It’s those mean guns that seek out victims. If that racist white devil would not have tried intruding on that disadvantaged employed person then she would have gone on to over throw the US
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:56 am to Eurocat
In the video of her death isn’t she being lifted up by the antifa black guy who was filming it.
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