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re: Philosophical question - if a foreign nation is subsidizing a product that they export

Posted on 4/6/25 at 2:45 am to
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11296 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 2:45 am to
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We need more energy on the grid


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solar panels


Won't make a dent.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1045 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 2:52 am to
Unfortunately, AI will not replace lawyers, and I think lawyers are the scum of the earth, evil, lazy and tend to believe they are more intelligent than than everyone. Yet, in reality most lawyers are educated above their intelligence. Most people who get a law degree do not recoup the the money spent to get the degree. Did I mention most lawyers fat, lazy, and smell bad. I do hope I don't find myself on the jury of lawyer who is being tried in a court of law because I could not be partial. I also hope I never have to encounter a lawyer whose life needs saving either from an accident or protection from a crime.

That being said, AI will not replace people who have a position that adds value to a business. AI will not come up with new innovation. Human perception and the need for a solutions is what drives new concepts, ideas, invention. AI is will never be that, ever.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170785 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 3:14 am to
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Won't make a dent.

Solar made up the majority of new grid installations in 2024

This isn't 2005
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3471 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:53 am to
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The good news is that AI will replace many lawyers. It will do much of the research and legal analysis in the future..


Will it do away with frivolous lawsuits
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297832 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:56 am to
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1. Why do we want to take advantage of labor in this way?


It creates potential wealth for you.

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2. We have unions that are trying to get paid above the skil level of the job which is forcing manufacturers out of the country.


Which is a minor reason why I dont mind buying foreign products. American unions and American corporations are disgusting.

Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2922 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:04 am to
Didn’t Covid teach you anything? Masks and some medication weren’t made here and we had to rely on the Chinese. Other things we don’t make are semiconductors and transformers for the power grid. By letting other countries drive away our ability to produce these things, we leave ourselves extremely vulnerable.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2242 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:35 am to
Because they were heavily subsidized by OUR TAX DOLLARS.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10380 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:40 am to
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You might want to reconsider if this is actually good news.


Maybe one day when all the jobs have either been undercut by AI or cheap overseas labor everything will be super duper cheap!!! Too bad nobody will have any money to buy anything
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297832 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:43 am to
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Maybe one day when all the jobs have either been undercut


They arent being undercut by cheap labor.

We have priced ourselves out of labor markets. Your own government is to blame.

The only way we can compete on a "level playing field" is automation and AI.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:46 am to
Still willingly bending over the table and taking it up the arse from your “friends” I see…
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297832 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:47 am to
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Still willingly bending over the table and taking it up the arse from your “friends” I see…


Lets say the Chinese govt subsidizes your rifle scope by 15%

Do you think the Chinese Govt is making money off this?

Who is the beneficiary?

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:49 am to
Do you think the Chinese government subsidizes products without any benefit for themselves? The consumer may see some benefit in price but the consumer is also sacrificing in quality…. That quality means they will end up replacing that scope sooner or returning it multiple times until they get one that works properly…
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297832 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:53 am to
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Do you think the Chinese government subsidizes products without any benefit for themselves?


Show me how it works. I am willing to learn.

The problem is yall cant you just take an influencer's word for it.

Chinese play the long game. They hope it benefits in the long run, but their one child policy screwed that.\

But if you can show me how China directly benefitted from your transaction, while paying part of your price, I am willing to listen.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10380 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:54 am to
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The only way we can compete on a "level playing field" is automation and AI.



Hopefully the select few that owns everything treats all us peasants well!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297832 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:56 am to
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Hopefully the select few that owns everything treats all us peasants well!


We'll get a stipend and do gig work.

Thats how it will go.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:56 am to
By selling more scopes, crowding out the market with cheap scopes and eventually becoming the primary or only supplier of scopes on the market…. Surely you are not this daft…. So I am going with willingly obtuse….
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42373 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:59 am to
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Why complain about it?


As they use that subsidy to bankrupt American companies that were once their competitors in the “free” market?

That’s a bold strategy cotton.

I mean, if the NBA had a salary cap for all American teams, but Toronto could be subsidized by the Canadian government, they would probably win every year.

By your logic, we should all just capitulate and become Toronto fans.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297832 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:00 am to
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By selling more scopes, crowding out the market with cheap scopes and eventually becoming the primary or only supplier of scopes on the market….


China has more competition than we do. They had 100 EV car companies a few years ago, still have around 50. How many do we have in this country?

Of course industry seeks to control market share, but we have no room to talk about "competition" when we're owned by a handful of corporations.

If the Chinee government wants to spot you 15% that you can use to create wealth, you would be dumb not to jump on it if everything else aligns.

Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14434 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:01 am to
I kills the domestic market. They “under sell” due to the subsidy.

Once domestic market is killed and they control the market share. They remove subsidies and can then set the price. In the long run we pay more and lose jobs in the process.

Then they roll to the next commodity to attack the same way.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42373 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:01 am to
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By selling more scopes, crowding out the market with cheap scopes and eventually becoming the primary or only supplier of scopes on the market…. Surely you are not this daft…. So I am going with willingly obtuse….


Roger is a bonafide dumbass.

The best part is that he KNOWS that doing this is making the CCP stronger, and he supports that.

Hell, dumbass SFP thinks China are our friends.

You can’t fix stupid.
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