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re: Philology: Fully-Acquited, Acquitted vs Not Removed
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:37 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:37 am to AggieHank86
quote:6 threads this month alone.
I rarely start threads. You could probably count every thread I started in 2019 on two hands.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:39 am to saints5021
quote:I often wonder how often I must repeat that the acts alleged by the House were inadequate to support issuance of Articles of Impeachment.
You lost AggieHank...frick off with this bullshite. It was a weak arse attempt that should have never made it out of committee in the house.
Team Red!
rah, rah, rah
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:46 am to AggieHank86
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This is probably pedantic, but I have never liked the use of the term “acquit” in the context of impeachment, I did not like it in 1999, and I still do not like it today. I just do not see it as being an accurate description of the process.
I get your point, but since the media used the term acquittal for Clinton they damned well better use it for Trump.
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A criminal jury can (2) produce an “acquittal” (verdict of “not guilty”), in which the jury makes a unanimous (usually) affirmative finding that the prosecution FAILED to meet its burden of proof.
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In contrast to a criminal proceeding, an impeachment proceeding mathematically cannot result in a “hung jury,” and it does not produce an affirmative finding of innocence.
Ergo, the criminal analogy falls apart, and the term “acquittal” is inaccurate.
Meh. If a criminal jury voting "not guilty" because the prosecution does not meet their burden is an acquittal, then the Senate voting to not remove because the burden to show an impeachable offense has been committed seems pretty much the same to me.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:03 am to TigerWoodlands
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Sometimes it's best not to become too obsessed with the loose thread on your sock.
BTW: I am sooooooo stealing that.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:14 am to AggieHank86
Melt you lib sky screamer. You got him now.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:17 am to AlxTgr
quote:8/10
Melt you lib sky screamer. You got him now.
Points deducted for failure to mention HRC.
But you did get a 10 from the Russian judge.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 9:22 am
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:23 am to AggieHank86
quote:I felt working her in was too fake.
Points deducted for failure to mention HRC
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:23 am to AggieHank86
That's the longest concern troll ever
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:24 am to AggieHank86
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President Trump was not removed from office, and I do not believe that he SHOULD have been removed from office. But he was not “acquitted,” either. (Neither was Billy Jeff or Andy Johnson).
I would have agreed with you if I had not watched Chief Justice Roberts say Donald John Trump was acquitted of both charges as read the vote result out loud...
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:24 am to AlxTgr
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I felt working her in was too fake.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
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I often wonder how often I must repeat that the acts alleged by the House were inadequate to support issuance of Articles of Impeachment
We know we know
It's your thing
Aggiehank....."I don't really support X.
Now that I've said that, I will set about having all my posts generally supporting the arguments of those who support X or deflecting the arguments of those who don't"
You aren't fooling anyone with that tired overused tactic
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 9:29 am
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:53 am to AggieHank86
nope, your name game narratives are irrelevant because trump has been declared innocent for life, its not up to you to label anything
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:58 am to AggieHank86
TLDR
President Trump is still in charge.
President Trump is still in charge.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 10:03 am to AggieHank86
No one gives a shite about your two-bit amateur legal analysis.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 10:04 am to Dead End
Bottom line. He's The President of the United States. The charges were found to be without merit or validity,and this party is over.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 10:13 am to AggieHank86
Here is the thing. The Jury (Senate) found the defendant (Your President the Glorious Orange Bastard) "Not Guilty" of Article 1 and Article 2 of the House Impeachment House Resolution 755.
When a Jury returns the verdict of "Not Guilty" as in this case by law that IS Acquittal. You may wish there was some stain further on DJT's presidency but there is not and furthermore the real stain is on the house for trying this political stunt to begin with.
When a Jury returns the verdict of "Not Guilty" as in this case by law that IS Acquittal. You may wish there was some stain further on DJT's presidency but there is not and furthermore the real stain is on the house for trying this political stunt to begin with.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 10:42 am to AggieHank86
If you are a lawyer (which I have my doubts), I can only envision you routinely getting your arse kicked in court. So you adopted the tried and true method of advising your clients to take a settlement. Because you cannot even seem to grasp the simple definition of words.
Furthermore, the etymology of the word acquit, doesn't match what your personal view of what that term is . . .
So what exactly did the Senate do again? A majority of them "released a charge" that was levied against Trump, or in simple terms, acquitted him
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acquit - (verb to relieve from a charge of fault or crime
They acquitted him of the crime. The jury acquitted her, but I still think she's guilty.
Furthermore, the etymology of the word acquit, doesn't match what your personal view of what that term is . . .
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Middle English aquiten, borrowed from Anglo-French aquiter, "free, discharged"
mid-13c., aquiten, from a- "to" (see ad-) + quite "free, clear," from Medieval Latin quitus, quittus, from Latin quietus "free".
From mid-14c. as "relieve (someone) of an obligation, release from a pledge," hence the meanings "set (an accused person) free from charges" The notion in the word is "to release or discharge," from an obligation or from accusation, guilt, censure, or suspicion.
So what exactly did the Senate do again? A majority of them "released a charge" that was levied against Trump, or in simple terms, acquitted him
Posted on 2/7/20 at 10:45 am to Bard
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I think this might be a flaw in the Impeachment process
The obvious gigantic flaw is a president can be impeached with zero proof, no testimony from direct witnesses, and second, third, and 4th hand partisan information.
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