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re: Per News... Bump Stocks are selling out in the US
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:04 am to Machine
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:04 am to Machine
quote:
as long as you can admit the line you draw between weapons that can and can't be owned is just as arbitrary as people who want to ban rifles
You're mistaken...I don't draw any line. If the military can have one, you should be able to as well. The Second Amendment is specifically to allow for defense from your own tyrannical government.
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:05 am to Machine
quote:
arms
except nuclear
and chemical
not those arms. but all other arms
Brilliant insight.
You should be an attorney. You'd win all your cases with this impeccable logic.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:06 am to Jjdoc
Bump stocks should be illegal. Good things is that they soon will be.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:09 am to Ted2010
Except you will soon probably be able to print one
More do nothing feelgoodism
More do nothing feelgoodism
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:09 am to gthog61
Doesn't matter. Illegal to sell or own. It's will happen.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:10 am to Machine
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are we talking about the first or second amendment?
Why not both?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:10 am to Ted2010
quote:
Doesn't matter.
You're correct. It doesn't matter because making them illegal will solve absolutely nothing.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:11 am to Centinel
quote:i'll take your sarcastic scoff to mean "i got nothing, those are arms and they're banned which is explicitly forbidden by the second amendment, but i can't say that i'm for people owning them because that's insane, however if i admit that then i admit that the line we set to determine what is and is not legal in terms of firearms is very arbitrary, and then i'd have to defend my position with something other than '2nd amendment baw'"
You should be an attorney. You'd win all your cases with this impeccable logic.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:11 am to Jjdoc
What's next banning thumbs and belt loops?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:13 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:because they're different amendments, and i'm not saying that because lots of arms were created after the constitution was written, we should only allow those that existed when the document was written. i'm saying, quite literally, that a bump stock is in no way shape or form an arm
Why not both?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:16 am to stat19
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By that logic we could make ammunition illegal Hillary
Nope, common sense should intervene here. I'm sure the Founders intended us to have the right to keep and bear arms.....but not have ammunition. However, I don't believe the 2A insures my right to purchase scopes, silencers, 100 round clips, bump stocks and so on.
Just my two cents.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:18 am to Centinel
Ok.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:20 am to Machine
quote:
because they're different amendments
So what.
quote:
i'm not saying that because lots of arms were created after the constitution was written, we should only allow those that existed when the document was written. i'm saying, quite literally, that a bump stock is in no way shape or form an arm
I know what you're saying. I'm letting you know why you're wrong.
Keyboards and ink pens are not speech or press.
Do you see the point I'm making, or do I need to spell it out for you?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:22 am to Machine
quote:
i'll take your sarcastic scoff to mean "i got nothing, those are arms and they're banned which is explicitly forbidden by the second amendment, but i can't say that i'm for people owning them because that's insane, however if i admit that then i admit that the line we set to determine what is and is not legal in terms of firearms is very arbitrary, and then i'd have to defend my position with something other than '2nd amendment baw'"
That's a rather well-crafted strawman there baw.
You continue to impress.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:23 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:no, i totally understand your reasoning, its just really dumb.
know what you're saying. I'm letting you know why you're wrong.
Keyboards and ink pens are not speech or press.
Do you see the point I'm making, or do I need to spell it out for you?
how does not having a bump stock prevent you from bearing arms?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:24 am to Centinel
quote:it might be a strawman if it didn't hold up, however since you still can't address it, i'll take that to mean it can't be a strawman
That's a rather well-crafted strawman there baw.
You continue to impress.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:24 am to Machine
No I'm not saying don't ban bump stocks because you can achieve the same thing with a rubberband
I'm saying ban rubberbands bc they can achieve the same thing as a bump stock
I'm saying ban rubberbands bc they can achieve the same thing as a bump stock
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:25 am to mark65mc
quote:
what this event did was teach a lot of people a number of different ways to rapid fire a semi auto
Haha you are so right.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:25 am to CP3
quote:rubber-bands, like bump stocks, aren't constitutionally protected so i guess if you want to try and get them banned, go for it?
I'm saying ban rubberbands bc they can achieve the same thing as a bump stock
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:25 am to Machine
quote:
no, i totally understand your reasoning, its just really dumb.
I don't think you do. Explain it.
quote:
how does not having a bump stock prevent you from bearing arms?
How does not having a keyboard prevent you from speaking freely?
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