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re: People don’t realize how close we are in direct war with Russia
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:13 pm to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:13 pm to RaoulDuke504
Russia can't even beat Ukraine, wtf are they going to do against the US along with the rest of NATO?
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:17 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:you think China is willing to completely collapse their economy to help a backwater water country like Russia in a war?
You do know Chyna is aligned with Russia and ready to help out correct?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:57 pm to LSURussian
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According to the map in your OP's link the U.S. "spy plane" only flew along the Black Sea coastline of Romania, not even in Ukrainian airspace much less Russia's airspace. But you seem to think Russia should be shooting that plane down, right?
Yes you fricking tard, it’s being used to target important command centers. Who cares where it’s at, what nation will join a war because a spy plane got shot down?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:00 am to RuLSU
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Russia is losing planes and helicopters to a country with no air force. They are losing boats to a country with no navy. They’re a freezing North Korea with nukes. If they had no nukes the country would have dissolved into 7+ independent states with the fall of the USSR.
How are people genuinely this fricking dumb? Planes don’t take out planes in a war and ships don’t take out ships. Missiles do, one advantage Ukraine has is the combined intelligence and targeting of 30 nations.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:19 am to RaoulDuke504
Maybe we could get Trump go over there and broker a peace deal as a private citizen. He’d probably get it sorted out with the quickness.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:43 am to Bayoutigre
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we are not close to war
I agree. Putin is in on it, the laundering. These bastards are all getting rich off of hard working Americans. Nato is getting theirs too.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:29 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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You do know Chyna is aligned with Russia and ready to help out correct?
LOL…..Not only will China never get into a direct military confrontation with their biggest trade partners, what do you think it is that keeps them from taking control of Hong Kong and Taiwan?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:42 am to RaoulDuke504
Breaking News!!!! We are supporting Ukraine! 
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:44 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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You do know Chyna is aligned with Russia and ready to help out correct?
Okay, so Rhode Island and New Hampshire are ready to attack the other lower 46? Terrifying.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:47 am to RaoulDuke504
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NATO is taken Putin trying to be reserved as a sign of weakness and seeing how far we can go before he reacts.
It’s a sign of weakness. That’s exactly what it is. Your hypothesis that Putin could win the war quickly if he wasn’t a humanitarian is laughably foolish.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:48 am to RaoulDuke504
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No matter if we win or not the amount of US live loss if we enter this war would be the worse since WW2. It’s not worth send our young men to die for our politicians money laundering nation.
Everyone agrees with this. You are arguing a point against nobody.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:54 am to RaoulDuke504
Imagine how much power warring nations would have over it's citizens.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:54 am to H newman
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Russia will not can not lose this war.
What does “lose this war mean”? No one thinks the Ukrainians are going to march on Moscow. Very few think they will liberate Crimea. I would guess that a small minority believes they can be evicted to the status quo ante. Any of those would be considered defeat.
But a negotiated settlement, in which they get to keep some of the land they occupy? Is that defeat? It certainly isn’t what they were hoping for initially, and they will have paid a price for it that will subjugate them for decades. There will be no Marshall Plan for Russia. They will sit on the other side of the border watching Ukraine be rebuilt, forbidden from participating. That sounds a lot like defeat to me.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:03 am to Penrod
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t’s a sign of weakness. That’s exactly what it is. Your hypothesis that Putin could win the war quickly if he wasn’t a humanitarian is laughably foolish.
I never said he could win I said it can get more bloody and escalate
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:17 am to TDTOM
Just like a lot of the posters on this thread.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 3:36 pm to LSU82BILL
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direct military confrontation
Doesn’t have to be direct. Supplying Russia what they need isn’t direct. Helping ISIS and AL Queda out isn’t direct, setting bases in Cuba and helping Cuba isn’t direct.
I wouldn’t bet against Chyna going direct if they think it’s in their long term interest. If they see a path to cripple us into submission (or a large part of the country into submission) and gain their top of the world standing they’ll do it in a heart beat.
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