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re: Pedophiles believe they should be a part of LGBT movement, called MAPs
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:42 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:42 am to AggieHank86
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Because your position is that of a scientific illiterate, and most people outside the Extreme Right are brighter than this.
XY=penis=male
Xx=pussy=female
THAT IS SCIENCE MY DOOD.
Also, we both know I’m not extreme right so I’d appreciate a correction there propane hank
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Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:43 am to ctiger69
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they can’t help it, it occurs in nature, and it has been going on since the beginning of mankind.
So are sociopaths but society doesn’t normalize it.
There is a significant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia - homosexuality harms no one.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:46 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:46 am to beerJeep
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Yet you’re too dense to see that they are the exact same. A mental disorder that people have that makes them “feel” they are something they aren’t.
Yep, I'm super dense for acknowledging that someone's societal behavior, and therefore their cultural roles, might differ from the historical norms attributed to their biological sex as determined by their chromosomes and genitalia.
Your progressively lengthier and more aggressive posts that are otherwise nearly identical in content have made me see the error of my ways
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:49 am to Joshjrn
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I'm super dense for acknowledging that someone's societal behavior, and therefore their cultural roles, might differ from the historical norms attributed to their biological sex as determined by their chromosomes and genitalia.
Except that really isn’t the argument. Obviously there is tremendous fluidity in gender attributes across the spectrum. Always has been. The issue is that now groups are seeking to redefine biological, fundamental truths based on this fluidity.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:49 am to Joshjrn
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Yep, I'm super dense for acknowledging that someone's societal behavior, and therefore their cultural roles, might differ from the historical norms attributed to their biological sex as determined by their chromosomes and genitalia.
Where are societal behaviors, cultural roles, historical norms etc coming into play? What do those have to do with
If you were born with XY chromosomes, you have a penis and are a male.
If you were born with xx chromosomes, you have a pussy and are a female?
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Your progressively lengthier and more aggressive posts that are otherwise nearly identical in content have made me see the error of my ways
Well, I mean, you’re just moving goal post now.
Are you going to explain how hormone therapy and gender reassignment surgery changes ones chromosomes?
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:52 am to upgrayedd
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I don't think that's necessarily true. Your premise seems to imply that you have to accept their view as truth before you debate it. Once you do that, they've essentially won the argument.
I don't believe that was my premise.
One can concede that gender and sex are different while not conceding that gender should make a bit of difference. For example, one can easily hold the position that it doesn't matter what one's gender identity might be, we should have binary bathrooms based on sex. To go to the other end of the spectrum, one could argue that because gender is a continuum, we shouldn't have any communal bathrooms at all, and all should be private.
Further, one can can functionally have the exact same argument by saying that they don't concede that sex and gender are different, but if we simply ignore the terms for the sake of argument, it doesn't matter (insert argument above, but transpose "cultural behavior" for "gender", or whatever).
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:53 am to beerJeep
quote:Everything you just posted relates to physical sex ... not to psycho-social gender.quote:Unmmmmm I don’t “view” them that way. They ARE that way.
All of this might be true if sex and gender were considered to be identical. I understand and appreciate that you view sex and gender to be identica
It’s fricking genetics.
XY = penis = male
XX = pussy = female
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:54 am to Antonio Moss
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Except that really isn’t the argument. Obviously there is tremendous fluidity in gender attributes across the spectrum. Always has been. The issue is that now groups are seeking to redefine biological, fundamental truths based on this fluidity.
Instead of screaming at the top of their lungs that gender and sex are identical, I believe social conservatives would get vastly more traction if instead, they argued that gender doesn't matter in X, Y, or Z circumstance, and that sex should carry.
Now that is an argument worth having.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:56 am to beerJeep
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Where are societal behaviors, cultural roles, historical norms etc coming into play?
Because that's the currently accepted definition of gender.
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What do those have to do with
If you were born with XY chromosomes, you have a penis and are a male.
If you were born with xx chromosomes, you have a pussy and are a female?
Nothing, because that pertains to the currently accepted definition of sex.
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Well, I mean, you’re just moving goal post now.
No, I'm not.
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Are you going to explain how hormone therapy and gender reassignment surgery changes ones chromosomes?
Nope, because it doesn't. Would you please point to where I so much as implied that it did?
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:56 am to Joshjrn
Clearly we are on the same page.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:56 am to Joshjrn
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One can concede that gender and sex are different while not conceding that gender should make a bit of difference
And you’re saying that “age” and “time since birth” are the same.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:57 am to Joshjrn
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In my opinion, pedophiles aren't a logical target. Now polygamy/polyandry? That could grow legs.
It's a possibility but I don't see them as desiring of social acceptance as pedos (for instance, you don't see the marching like NAMBLA or Butterfly Kisses).
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:59 am to beerJeep
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And you’re saying that “age” and “time since birth” are the same.
Nah. It’s like arguing that someone with maturity issues is the same as being young.
Person A is a 40 year old who acts like an 18 year old
Person B is an 18 year old.
The problem is the cultural extreme left wants to declare that both people are 18 which is clearly not true.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:59 am to Joshjrn
quote:Just as there would be a very interesting discussion that in some instances physical sex is far less relevant than psycho-social gender.
Instead of screaming at the top of their lungs that gender and sex are identical, I believe social conservatives would get vastly more traction if instead, they argued that gender doesn't matter in X, Y, or Z circumstance, and that sex should carry.
Now that is an argument worth having.
And which charactristic has more bearing upon any SPECIFIC activity or action.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 12:00 pm to Joshjrn
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Because that's the currently accepted definition of gender.
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gen·der /'jend?r/Submit noun 1. the state of being male or female
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Nothing, because that pertains to the currently accepted definition of sex.
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sex /seks/Submit noun 1. (chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse. "he enjoyed talking about sex" synonyms: sexual intercourse, intercourse, lovemaking, making love, sex act, (sexual) relations; More 2. either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions. "adults of both sexes"
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No, I'm not.
Yep. You are
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Nope, because it doesn't. Would you please point to where I so much as implied that it did?
Can I have a penis and be a female?
Posted on 12/24/18 at 12:00 pm to AggieHank86
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Just as there would be a very interesting discussion that in some instances physical sex is far less relevant than psycho-social gender.
In terms of law and government? Can you give an example?
Posted on 12/24/18 at 12:02 pm to bamarep
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Pedophiles believe they should be a part of LGBT movement, called MAPs
They already are in my eyes. All sick and mentally ill.
Posted on 12/24/18 at 12:02 pm to AggieHank86
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Everything you just posted relates to physical sex ... not to psycho-social gender.
Aka reality and what someone “feels”
Posted on 12/24/18 at 12:03 pm to beerJeep
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And you’re saying that “age” and “time since birth” are the same.
I'm saying that the definition of age is time since birth as measured by the number of orbits the planet known as Earth has concluded around the star known as Sun since the exact moment one was either expelled or removed from the body of another human being, either until the present date or until the date they ceased baseline bodily function, whichever occurs first, yes.
But I assume your post had a purpose, other than to give me a platform to act like a pedantic a-hole.
This post was edited on 12/24/18 at 12:09 pm
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