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re: Paulina Luna Names 4 Co-conspirators
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:34 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:34 pm to AlterEd
Here's what you said -
"I just said, "to most actual people, raping a 14 year old is a serious and heinous crime, not something to shrug your shoulders at."
To which you replied, "nah."
You're a frickin creep, man."
Which obviously doesn't resemble any point I've made
I never did this
The evidence we have this consists of some guy O'Keefe found and Luna's attention-seeking claims, neither accompanied by anything we can dig into.
I won't be shocked at all if there was a 14 year old abused by Epstein, although I suspect that isn't his common target. I would be very surprised if Epstein was involved in trafficking 10 year olds, as it doesn't appear in any evidence I've seen nor align with perhaps the most robust source we've got - Giuffre's extensive writings.
"I just said, "to most actual people, raping a 14 year old is a serious and heinous crime, not something to shrug your shoulders at."
To which you replied, "nah."
You're a frickin creep, man."
Which obviously doesn't resemble any point I've made
quote:
What you guys did was claim they were all 17 year old runaways
I never did this
quote:
What I actually fricking said is that the investigator claims they were kids and I pointed out that some of them were as young as 14. Now I'm pointing out that some of them were as young as 10.
The evidence we have this consists of some guy O'Keefe found and Luna's attention-seeking claims, neither accompanied by anything we can dig into.
I won't be shocked at all if there was a 14 year old abused by Epstein, although I suspect that isn't his common target. I would be very surprised if Epstein was involved in trafficking 10 year olds, as it doesn't appear in any evidence I've seen nor align with perhaps the most robust source we've got - Giuffre's extensive writings.
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:38 pm to Pettifogger
Ed is clearly a liar.
Seems a bit manic.
Seems a bit manic.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:40 pm to Pettifogger
So now you're saying Paulina Luna is lying? The congresswoman who has read the unredacted files just got in front of cameras and lied to us about what's in them?
Also, I'm asking you to point out where I called you a pedophile. Still waiting.
Hint, I didn't. You lied. If I were going to call anyone a pedophile it would be the guy who just claimed that 10 year old girls were sexually mature women and disparaged a 14 year old as a prostitute, but I didn't call him that either.
Also, I'm asking you to point out where I called you a pedophile. Still waiting.
Hint, I didn't. You lied. If I were going to call anyone a pedophile it would be the guy who just claimed that 10 year old girls were sexually mature women and disparaged a 14 year old as a prostitute, but I didn't call him that either.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:51 pm to AlterEd
I'm saying that I've read hundreds of pages of Epstein material, Giuffre's writings, deposition transcripts, et al and I've never seen anything that would resemble the idea that Epstein trafficked 10 years olds. So I have my doubts about characterizations by people like Mace or Luna who are trying to make names for themselves in these sagas.
Luna's own words appear pretty deliberate to me.
You mischaracterized me as excusing/shrugging my shoulders at rape and called me a creep on account of it. You're just a bad faith actor, candidly.
Luna's own words appear pretty deliberate to me.
You mischaracterized me as excusing/shrugging my shoulders at rape and called me a creep on account of it. You're just a bad faith actor, candidly.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:52 pm to FLTech
quote:
Funny how I have been screaming this for the past 8 months but of course nobody on here believed me like usual
Dude, shut the frick up.
Nobody gives a frick about you, your opinions, or your shite threads.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:55 pm to AlterEd
quote:
The congresscritter who has read the unredacted files just got in front of cameras and lied to us about what's in them?
Wouldn’t be the first time such has happened. Not saying Luna... but seriously, critters lie, mislead, obfuscate, etc.
Also, first I've heard of 10yr olds.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:59 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
You mischaracterized me as excusing/shrugging my shoulders at rape and called me a creep on account of it. You're just a bad faith actor, candidly.
No I didn't. It's all right there in what you quoted. I said, to most normal people 14 year old girls are still considered children and that raping them is a heinous crime.
Your reply literally began with a single word. "Nah" and then a second paragraph.
There is no misrepresentation there.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:01 pm to Pettifogger
And since you won't admit that I lied when you said I called you a pedophile, I will reiterate it. You frickin lied, man. And you know you lied.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:08 pm to AlterEd
Go pull the post I was responding to. Is that all you said? Is that all I said?
You're a bad faith actor, most people on here believe that, and it's not possible to have good faith discussions with people of that character.
You're a bad faith actor, most people on here believe that, and it's not possible to have good faith discussions with people of that character.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:15 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Go pull the post I was responding to. Is that all you said? Is that all I said?
That's the whole frickin context, yeah. I said that some of the victims here were as young as 14. You claimed that calling 14 year olds children was making regular people shrug their shoulders and not care. I said that's bullshite because most people consider 14 year old girls to still be children and it is reprehensible.
You said, "nah". The rest of your post was just a childish insult.
No bad faith here. You're just busted out being both creepy and dishonest.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:19 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:In my mind it doesn't even hold for the former. I just know that's how they benefitted from a decade or two of playing the victim card. Giuffre recruited underage girls for Epstein as well.
There’s getting your other 17 year old friend involved in your world travel sex parties with rich guys, and then there’s stealing 10 year old children to be raped by hordes of people.
Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t work for the latter.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:19 pm to AlterEd
"yeah that's the context"
I told you I thought conflating pedophilia with Epstein made normal people shrug their shoulders when the evidence came out.
you then said "only people like you" - which is obviously a ridiculous response
I responded "nah" (referencing your pejorative accusations directed toward me).
I hope that helps. I'd call you intellectually dishonest, but I think "intellectually" would be a stretch in your case.
I told you I thought conflating pedophilia with Epstein made normal people shrug their shoulders when the evidence came out.
you then said "only people like you" - which is obviously a ridiculous response
I responded "nah" (referencing your pejorative accusations directed toward me).
I hope that helps. I'd call you intellectually dishonest, but I think "intellectually" would be a stretch in your case.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:22 pm to Pettifogger
See, look at the post above yours. Most people find it ALL reprehensible. But in the exchange in question here you were saying that people equate 14 year old girls with women. You frickin said the shite and you know you did, man.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:23 pm to AlterEd
quote:I said folks doing that should be skinned alive and you said I was a bad person
It's all right there in what you quoted. I said, to most normal people 14 year old girls are still considered children and that raping them is a heinous crime.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:24 pm to AlterEd
quote:
See, look at the post above yours. Most people find it ALL reprehensible. But in the exchange in question here you were saying that people equate 14 year old girls with women. You frickin said the shite and you know you did, man.
And you are an admitted pedophile.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:25 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
I said folks doing that should be skinned alive and you said I was a bad person
This only came AFTER I continued to point out that some of them were much younger than 17 after you claimed they were all 17 year old runaways.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:26 pm to AlterEd
I see you're not having a good day. Sorry. Hope your weekend goes better.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:26 pm to dgnx6
quote:
And you are an admitted pedophile.
Again, you need to knock this kind of shite off. You're the stupid frick arguing that old men fricking 14 year olds is ok because 14 is the age of consent in Brazil. And despite that I never even called you a pedophile. People have been banned for less than this.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:28 pm to AlterEd
quote:Well it is. Nobody is disagreeing. You’re a pos if you don’t tell the 17 year old to move the frick on you don’t want anything to do with them.
See, look at the post above yours. Most people find it ALL reprehensible.
But it’s not nearly as bad as raping a 10 year old.
Idk what you want from us, other than to use us for some weird outrage porn you’ve got going on.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:28 pm to AlterEd
quote:
This only came AFTER I continued to point out that some of them were much younger than 17 after you claimed they were all 17 year old runaways.
You have basically pointed out fricking college aged women makes you a pedophile.
You started changing your stance when I said you are outing yourself as a pedophile then.
Maybe learn the definition of pedophile.
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