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re: Patriot Front - Unmasked

Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:55 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39451 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:55 am to
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The first thing an officer should do is unmask them and confirm their identities. Hmm

Antifa wears masks, and they get arrested sometimes. Are their masks removed when they are photographed?

Before anyone gets triggered, that is not a rhetorical question; I’m genuinely curious.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 5:56 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17761 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:12 am to
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Can you or anyone explain what you disagree with these people about?


I simply am not a fan of cosplay protests and hiding behind masks. With that said, I make no claim whatsoever on whether I agree or disagree with this group since I frankly have little clue what this group advocates.

I further make no claim whatsoever on the validity of the charges against this group. The point here is that based on the operating history of the FBI in infiltrating high-profile “hate” groups, it is highly likely that key elements in this group are FBI informants and the other hapless fools are being entrapped and are simply too stupid to realize it.


Klansman, FBI Mole and Murderer: Gary Thomas Rowe Jr.

This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 6:35 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17761 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:16 am to
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Its nothing more than a psy op to feed racial narratives.





Was January 6 Part of the FBI’s ‘Operation Cold Snap’?

…. in June 2020, days after the nation was roiled by Black Lives Matter looting and rioting, a man from Wisconsin named Stephen Robeson sponsored a “National Militia Conference” at a Dublin hotel. (Yes, that was the real name of the event.)

According to BuzzFeed’s exceptional July 2021 investigative report on the FBI-led plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, Robeson “helped organize the national meeting, and he was enthusiastically pushing people he knew to attend.” The purpose of the conference was to recruit people who ultimately would stoke “political violence” against governors who refused to reopen their states after lockdowns supposedly necessitated by COVID.

Some participants said Robeson, known as “Robey,” relentlessly pestered them until they agreed to show up; people came from as far as Maryland and Kansas City, BuzzFeed’s Ken Bensinger and Jessica Garrison reported. One member of the Three Percenters, an alleged militia group on the FBI’s naughty list, observed people taking photos from discreet locations in the hotel. “The feds are everywhere,” he thought to himself.

Indeed. One of the feds was Robeson himself.

In a motion filed in July by a defense lawyer in the Whitmer kidnapping prosecution, Robeson is described as having a long record “of cooperating with the government in exchange for personal benefits. Basically, this [confidential human source] has a decades-long history of acting as a professional snitch for the government.”

Robeson also—and there’s nothing at all sketchy about this—founded the Wisconsin Patriot Three Percenters, BuzzFeed reported. Three Percenters, along with the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, are considered right-wing extremist militias by the FBI. Dozens of members from the three groups have been arrested and charged in connection with the January 6 protest at the Capitol.

But there’s more to Robeson’s background than just acting as government-paid flypaper to lure right-wingers to join a so-called “militia” group; he’s compiled a rap sheet a mile long including sex with a minor, battery, car theft, insurance fraud, and forgery. And in 2020, this convicted felon was working for Christopher Wray’s FBI to entrap alleged “militia men,” presumably loyal to Donald Trump, to pull a stunt before the 2020 election.

Which is exactly what happened. In yet another example of the FBI interfering in a presidential election, Robeson and at least a dozen other FBI agents and informants orchestrated the shocking scheme—the feds paid for and organized “surveillance” trips as well as weapons training camps, all for the hidden cameras to capture on film—to produce major headlines as early voting was underway in the crucial swing state of Michigan.

Whitmer held a dramatic press conference the day the Justice Department announced the arrest of six men on federal conspiracy charges, blaming Trump for encouraging “domestic terrorists.” Joe Biden weighed in, too. “There is a through line from President Trump’s dog whistles and tolerance of hate, vengeance, and lawlessness to plots such as this one. He is giving oxygen to the bigotry and hate we see on the march in our country,” he said on October 8, 2020.

Turns out, the “oxygen” that gave the plot life came from inside the house. BuzzFeed, after reviewing numerous court records and conducting interviews with those involved, concluded the FBI assets “had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception.” Without the FBIs involvement, it’s unclear “whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.”

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An examination of the case by Buzzfeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422862 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:38 am to
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but it's so ironic that no one goes out and attacks or assaults them like the Proud Boys or some other group.

Well they're doing things differently than the Proud Boys, who were counter-counter protestors, looking to fight leftist counter protesters making things violent.

The Proud Boys just march for a photo op and then leave, as far as I can tell.

Now, I used to fully believe this was some sort of a work (possibly not government-backed), but then I saw so many posters unironically support Andrew Tate, so anything is possible. One guy on the OT a few days ago was simping for Tate hard, talking about how Tate changed his life. If that idiot can get followers, then it normalizes outlier-weird stuff like Patriot Front a bit, at least in terms of possibilities that this isn't a work.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12969 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:49 am to
The Whitmer kidnapping plot is proof positive that the FBI orchestrates the actions of these so called white supremacy groups. At one point two of the targets told the feds to frick off but the feds insisted. If you are coercing people to commit terror, it isn’t a sting operation, it’s an inside job.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1466 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:52 am to
Out of curiosity, I just Google'd about a dozen of the 31 names in the mugshot report. Not surprisingly, there is almost zero past info on any of these people. Try putting almost anyone you know over the age of 21 in Google and you will find something - social media accounts, a mention in Grandma's obituary, touchdown in a high school football game or coming in #211 out of 400 in a cross country meet.

I can understand these people are probably not pillars of the community, and wouldn't have a LinkedIn, but wouldn't you think there would be a few "I went to high school with a white supremacist" reddit posts - with their senior portrait posted? You are telling me that half these people who would have been in high school in the early to mid 2010s left no social media trace - no music, no photos, no racist rants, no trips to the beach. Nothing?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422862 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:55 am to
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The Whitmer kidnapping plot is proof positive that the FBI orchestrates the actions of these so called white supremacy groups.

Why start there?

This was the (celebrated on here by people now complaining about it, mind you) SOP during the War on Terror, too.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57272 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:55 am to
"Morning Joe" let the cat out of the proverbial bag a while back when some Trump baws got into a scuffle with these Patriot Front guys, going so far as to pull their masks. MJ said it was terrible these awful Trump supporters assaulted federal agents.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72037 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:59 am to
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Oh wait, this link has all 31 mugshots


I'm shocked that yet another idiotic PT conspiracy was blown the frick up by 30 seconds of Googling shite.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 8:02 am
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12969 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:47 am to
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You're reaching JJJ/oogabooga levels of mental illness and OCD-fixation.


You’re reaching AggieHank levels of being a whiney little bitch
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12969 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:49 am to
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Why start there? This was the (celebrated on here by people now complaining about it, mind you) SOP during the War on Terror, too.


You mean people saw evidence of government corruption that changed their mind? You should fricking try it some time.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27389 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:10 am to
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I'm shocked that yet another idiotic PT conspiracy was blown the frick up by 30 seconds of Googling shite.


Was it though? I've known about that link since it was originally sent out a while back. This is not nearly the 1st time PF has been discussed and their identity has not been "debunked."

@ Cuckeye- If MAGA and dudes on this board were such proud racists, why are they pushing back on these guys? What do you think our MO is for being racist and not supporting PF?

@SFP- So because some incels support an idiot like Tate, how many of those do you think oppose the PF?

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39524 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:13 am to
Right. I remember laughing at endless Antifa mugshot posts on this board, but strangely we’ve seen zero mugshots of these dopes until now apparently

But that’s totally normal according to luminaries like SFP.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72037 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:15 am to
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Was it though?


Yes.

They weren't unmasked...except they were literally fricking unmasked.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422862 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:16 am to
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You mean people saw evidence of government corruption that changed their mind? You should fricking try it some time.


Some people get it right the first time and don't need to change their mind, b/c they're pretty much always right.

These people don't need partisanship as a guide (or crutch).
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 10:17 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422862 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:17 am to
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SFP- So because some incels support an idiot like Tate, how many of those do you think oppose the PF?

You have it wrong

The fact that some incels support Tate shows it's very possible the same sort of weak-minded, broken men also legitimately support PF.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22375 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:24 am to
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I don’t know or care about masks, but similar groups have been around and documented for decades.



True. The FBI was founded in 1908 as the BOI, then was rebranded as FBI in the 1930s.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27389 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:25 am to
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"Morning Joe" let the cat out of the proverbial bag a while back when some Trump baws got into a scuffle with these Patriot Front guys, going so far as to pull their masks. MJ said it was terrible these awful Trump supporters assaulted federal agents.


I'm sure it's still out there but if you Google:

MAGA confronts Patriot Front

YT: MAGA Confronts Patriot Front





In the results you get everything but that video. You get a handful or arrest there. I know the video that the other poster mentioned exists because it was discussed on this very board at some point. Anyway, the hits are mostly anti-Trump shite but hey don't take my word for it.

I am sure it's just us dumb, racist, bigots making up more conspiracy shite.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 10:37 am
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