re: Parents required to sign statement saying they will not observe remote classes

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And you’ll be asked to leave if it’s constant.

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Good luck to the school on their lawsuit

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Can that teacher afford the resources to defend themselves in a civil suit?

Let me type this slowly so you all understand.

GUIDELINES

ARE

NOT

ENFORCEABLE

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Teachers have some leeway for removing disruptive children from their classrooms. They can certainly do that via an online classroom if they feel the children or their parents are disrupting the class. In this case, they could classify the invasion of privacy as a disruption and kick a kid off of the chat. What they do from there is up to them but the point is that they can certainly enforce the policy/guidelines/whatever-you-want-to-call-it if they choose to.

In many states, it is illegal to have cameras or other recording devices in the classroom, especially for younger ages. This is probably trying to find a workaround.

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And you’ll be asked to leave if it’s constant.

Same here.

“Hey teach - was trying to figure out what’s going on with johnnys geometry issues- mind if I listen in for a bit tomorrow?” wouldn’t be met with any substantial resistance, realistically.

“Excuse me I don’t think you’ve been teaching this right because I’ve sat in every day and have shared video with my message board friends and I’m interrupting the class today” will be frowned upon greatly

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You are pointing out the difference from the teacher POV not policy. The point is that the taxpayer has the right to go into a school in his/her district as long as they follow the safety policies of the school. Teachers would not have as much of an issue with a parent coming into the classroom when expected, because they can plan for that and diverge from their usual approach if they are concerned about whether what they are doing is beneficial and appropriate for the students. On the other hand, they would have no way of knowing when parents are observing from home and recording, so they would have to actually provide quality lessons and avoid obvious propagandizing. It is obvious why certain teacher and the unions would be against this. The parents would be able to compare good teachers to bad teachers. Unions and government like to protect their members from that sort of assessment because then they would actually have to make a regular effort and teach appropriate curriculum.

How do you expect me to watch over my kids while they learn remotely? It's your job to educate them.

Why can't I watch over my kids while they learn remotely? I need to make sure they are being educated the way I want.

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policy/guidelines/whatever-you-want-to-call-it

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There's no "whatever-you-want-to-call-it".

Policy = A deliberate system of principles to guide decisions and achieve rational outcomes. A policy is a statement of intent, and is implemented as a procedure or protocol. Enforced by regulation or applicable governing board.

Procedure = A particular way of accomplishing something or of acting. Enforced by regulation or applicable governing board.

Standard = A definite rule, principle, or measure established by authority. Enforced by regulation or applicable governing board.

Guideline = A general rule, principle, or piece of advice. OPTIONAL and cannot be enforced.

Here's another hint.

When you get access to a computer system at work, is the document you have to assign and affirm called

A. Acceptable Use Policy

or

B. Acceptable Use Guideline?

Terms of Service/Terms of Use/Terms and Conditions are Policies and Procedures. If Apple called it's TOU a GUIDELINE do you think they would have any legal recourse to enforce it?

For the record, I would likely scrutinize my kid far more closely than the teacher unless I heard something I knew was absolutely wrong from either personal experience or professional expertise.

A procedure that teachers SHOULD implement if possible is to disable the ability to conduct private chats on Zoom, requiring any and all chats to be visible to everyone.

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There's no "whatever-you-want-to-call-it".

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Yeah, there is.

While you argue semantics you ignore my point: teachers have discretion to remove distractions from class, and if they feel that the lack of privacy due to a parent monitoring a child’s computer is a distraction to the learning environment, they may act on it.

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teacher has no legal means to enforce this. The teacher can complain to the school and school district and they can enact some sort of restraining order, but otherwise, my home, my rules.

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Have fun with it, bro! If this is the hill you want to die on it’s all yours.

Im sure you’d be thrilled to find some super woke activist parent was sitting in daily and fight hard for their right to do so.

But we can agree there may be less nefarious reasons than it being top secret indoctrination right? Nobody is going to kick your kid out because your office is within earshot of their computer.

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Why can't I watch over my kids while they learn remotely? I need to make sure they are being educated the way I want.

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You can check in, but do you think 30 parents micromanaging that process ends itself to better outcomes, in general?

Big broad strokes feedback- great. Having daily film break down... less great?