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re: Pam Bondi announced that the Epstein files will be redacted

Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:26 am to
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:26 am to
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People vote for issues, not leaders, unless youre populist or in some other personality cult.




People vote for all kinds of retarded reasons

Because their grandpappy always voted a certain way, because their preacher told them to vote a certain way, because their region votes a certain way, because someone running has the same ethnic composition as them, etc.

A remote minority of people are actually informed on more than a handful of issues, and the reason they care about those issues at all is because they were instructed to via their upbringing or environment

Giving this wide mass of people a vote on government officials is called democracy. You can church it up however you want, but that’s what it is and it’s what it’s always been for 3000 years
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:26 am to
What’s the general consensus in these 12 pages? Many think he was working with Israel so redactions should be included if that’s the case. Protecting criminals, not so much.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:26 am to
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Yet, they are two separate things.



Yeah, but you can't describe when one begins and the other ends.

Its a fruitless conversation and a baseless criticism.

Instead, pick a policy and state why you hate it or love it.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47585 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:26 am to
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There's no way Bondi is the final say on this.

She probably is taking one for the team, but that's SOP in politics at this level and she knows that.




We didn't fricking vote for that


Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:27 am to
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:27 am to
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Individualism, the same thing that has carried conservative thought for decades.


What are you even saying? How does individualism operate the government? How do you elect your individualism?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36573 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:27 am to
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People vote for the known entity.

Youre old enough to know this.



So Democrats, in your opion, stayed home or voted for and were happy to have Trump, who stands against them on nearly every policy, just becasue they didn't "know" Kamala? Right?
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:27 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297011 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:28 am to
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People vote for all kinds of retarded reasons



Except populist. Youre starting to get it. Kudos.

Populists vote for Demagogues who promise free shite.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297011 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:29 am to
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Yeah, but you can't describe when one begins and the other ends.


Sure I can.

Populism is a strategy, period.

Its under the Democratic umbrella but its not democracy.

There is no beginning or end, one is a component of the other. Yet, are two separate things.

Posted by Cito2point0
Member since Aug 2024
126 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:29 am to
They have to redact Trumps name.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297011 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:31 am to
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How does individualism operate the government?




I see we're resorting to toddler status again here...

its been explained thoroughly to you.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:32 am to
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Populists vote for Demagogues who promise free shite.


THAT IS DEMOCRACY

There is zero distinction in this. You can have a monarchy, an oligarchy, or a democracy. And democracy functions exclusively via demagogues promising shite for their support.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297011 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:33 am to
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THAT IS DEMOCRACY


Sure.

So are hundreds of other umbrella strategies.

Once you understand that Populism is nothing more than an election strategy you will get it.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27575 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:35 am to
Then she will soon be fired by her boss, correct?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8813 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:35 am to
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Just trying to focus more on the positive things going on than find a reason to be bitter constantly.


You might be on to something in terms of individual contentment.

My initial reaction to this news was "Well, at least she is admitting that Epstein was/is working for Intelligence."
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36573 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:36 am to
You haven't responded to my previous post. Probably because it shows the absurdity of your statements.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:37 am to
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Once you understand that Populism is nothing more than an election strategy you will get it.


You seriously don’t think I understand this?

I don’t believe in democracy at all for this country anymore and think our current iteration is irreparably corrupted. I just think it’s outrageous you want to make a distinction of populism being the problem when it is a meaningless amplifier term that is no different than the general right to vote of the people.

Either advocate for the right to vote to be stripped from the public, or stop bitching about populism. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 10:39 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297011 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:38 am to
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ou haven't responded to my previous post.


Probably the same stupid shite youve b een posting. I'll look it up for laughs in a sec.

Democracy is a system of govt. It does not pertain to ideology or ideas.
Populism is an election strategy or political doctrine. Its not a system.

Yall need 9th grade civics class again.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:39 am to
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What’s the general consensus in these 12 pages?


I think these 12 pages is a twig in the social media awakening tree that is happening online.

There are generally three groups that are forming a normal distribution curve:

1. On the left tail of the normal distribution curve you have the Israel firsters who want full censorship about anything Israel and conflate ethnic Jews with the Israeli government.

2. In the middle of the normal distribution curve you have an awakening of people looking to their left and right who are being more nuanced and saying, "hey all those bad actions my Israel intelligence should not be blamed on ethnic Jews". Israeli government should be held accountable as any other U.S. ally.

3. On the right side of the normal distribution curve you have the proud antisemites and they too conflate Israel government with ethnic Jews.

It's an interesting dynamic playing out. You see a lot of big names moving from 1 to 2 right now and are willing to take a more nuanced approach to the issue. Most of our politicians are suck in 1.
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