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re: Pam Bondi announced that the Epstein files will be redacted

Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:16 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:16 am to
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Every single election strategy is leader centric


No, its not.

Again for the short bus folks.

Democracy is a system of government.

Populism is an election strategy.

Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:17 am to
Holy shite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:17 am to
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Then the United States was founded on populism


240 years ago when we were all farmers with a 3rd grade education, yes.

Some of us have grown over the years.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:18 am to
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No, its not.

Again for the short bus folks.

Democracy is a system of government.

Populism is an election strategy.



You must be retarded. The entire point of an election is to pick.......a leader. By your own words, populism is leader-centric. Can you not make the leap?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:18 am to
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Some of us have grown over the years.


Grown into what? What is your counter to populism? The managerial state?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76392 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:18 am to
He just wants to derail this thread. Doing a good job.
To end this derail I suggest people go to the Oxford dictionary and read the definitions of populism and democracy.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:19 am to
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Sounds like democracy

Explain to me how “democracy” of your vision would be different


I would not take any criticism using blanket terms like populism or democracy seriously. Without specifics it's either laziness or a tell that you are just disgruntled and what to poke a jab at the winners.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:20 am to
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Holy shite


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Well, okay, not everyone. But almost everyone. The Real Clear Politics polling average shows that a mere 14 percent of Americans approve of Congress, compared to 78 percent who disapprove.


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nonetheless, 95 percent of incumbents were re-elected in the midterm elections. This is sometimes known as Fenno's Paradox,


People vote for issues, not leaders, unless youre populist or in some other personality cult.

Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:20 am to
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Mate, are you serious that we accept that


Kind of. I know what Israel did and that's enough for me. Just trying to focus more on the positive things going on than find a reason to be bitter constantly.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:21 am to
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To end this derail I suggest people go to the Oxford dictionary and read the definitions of populism and democracy.


There are different definitions in Oxford, but they are meaningless

If you don’t want the commoner to have a say, then don’t give them the right to vote.

If you do give them the right to vote, then you have granted them access to the democracy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:21 am to
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You must be retarded. The entire point of an election is to pick.......a leader


No, its to choose a rep who will carry forward your issues. We dont worship them, they work for us.

Unless youre a populist.

Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:21 am to
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People vote for issues, not leaders, unless youre populist or in some other personality cult.




Then what is the point of primaries, specifically Dem party primaries, when all candidates vote in lockstep?



Nice talking to you
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:21 am to
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Grown into what? What is your counter to populism?


Individualism, the same thing that has carried conservative thought for decades.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50455 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:22 am to
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They got caught up in the Billy Badass moment, I guess. They did the opposite of speaking softly and carrying a big stick. Rather, they shouted from the rooftops armed with a toothpick.

It was a misstep, and I truly hope they can regroup and avoid a similar mistake in the future.




Spot on
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:22 am to
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People vote for issues


MAGA is flooded with issues we vote FOR.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:23 am to
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Then what is the point of primaries,


Pretty much a waste of time since incumbents are re-elected at a 95% clip
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76392 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:23 am to
Stupid. Didn't mean to name call.

Populism is only attacked by the losers in democratic elections.

Populism and democracy are not exclusive but intertwined.

You didn't read the definitions in Oxford. Too bad.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:24 am to
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People vote for issues, not leaders, unless youre populist or in some other personality cult.






To circle back to this, if people only voted for ideas, shouldn't Kamala have perfromed similarly to JB in 2020? Discuss
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:24 am to
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Populism and democracy are not exclusive but intertwined.


Yet, they are two separate things.

Twit.

One is a system of government. You can cry all you want, that never changes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298561 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:25 am to
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f people only voted for ideas, shouldn't Kamala have perfromed similarly to JB in 2020? Discuss


People vote for the known entity.

Youre old enough to know this.
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