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re: Palestine protestors are being ARRESTED and led out of Columbia University in handcuffs

Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:14 am to
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:14 am to
quote:

The right has definitely done a 180 on free speech this year.

You should wait for more details to come out before tossing these statements around.
Does anyone think these protestors were sitting in a peaceful circle singing kumbayah on the lawn?

The previous arrests and visa cancellations / deportation were for blocking student faculty / access to their classes / offices. The deportee was a foreign national with a previous political position with ties to hamas (an internationally recognized terrorist group).

If the left / democrats can jail Christians for depriving / restricting access to abortion clinics, the right can arrest / jail / deport the Columbia protestors for blocking / restricting access to education facilities).
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:16 am to
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This isn’t going to end until we have another Kent State.



You want citizens to he shot? WTF?

Martyrs, she needs martyrs.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17791 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:22 am to
My point still stands. You are now 4chubbies 2.0.
Congrats.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:30 am to
quote:

“bury the other side when we have the power.”

When the "other side" is trying to bury you in a grave, you have to respond appropriately or they will continue.

They must suffer the same fate as they tried to mete out, or they will not relent.
They will continue to strike your other cheek until they lose their 1st eye.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22639 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:39 am to
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Only on January 6 can they do this. OR, these student are just taking a walk in the library. Which narrative is it today? Nvm. That was diffe(R)ent.


Sorry are you saying this is indeed different? Or that Jan 6 protestors were treated unfairly?

My opinion is that this is quite different, primarily because these people are being arrested from the space they are occupying, not after the fact. Being arrested for not leaving a certain place is not the same as getting arrested for the opinions you hold.

Presumably, this is a privately owned building owned by the University which has absolutely nothing to do with subject of the protest. They have also been at it for quite some time and it seems the University thinks they are a disruption.

From Reuters:

quote:

Columbia University said late on Wednesday that it had requested NYPD assistance "in securing the building," and that two of its public safety officials were hurt in the standoff.


On the other hand, US Congress leaders refused to have extra security at the protest.

So again, what the hell is your point?
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1788 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:41 am to
here's the thing loretta 70% of american's supported the national guards actions regarding kent state.

people had a belly full of the campus riots and were glad the national guard did what needed to be done.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2161 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:44 am to
I do believe at some point the protestors will be armed.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22639 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:51 am to
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Oh noz. They took over the library. You guys sound like every loser who complained J6ers took over the Capitol.


The school asked for security, they called the police to secure the building. The demonstrators have been arrested because they wouldn’t leave.

I think it is a fair expectation that you get arrested and removed from private property at the property owner’s request.

That’s not what happened on Jan 6.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62532 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Martyrs, she needs martyrs.


Maybe Neil Young will screech out another song about this if it happens.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39411 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:07 am to
That dude looked a little old to be a student.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22639 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:08 am to
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J6 should have been a teaching point for this board, but it appears the only lesson learned was “bury the other side when we have the power.”


More nonsense. The “other side” of Jan 6 is not idiots at a private university that have been protesting for years now. You may be referring the subset of that group that are foreigners facing deportation as “the other side”, which is of course not a very strong stance.

That is, Jan 6 protesters could not have been a more politically identifiable group- they were Americans that vote a certain way that were protesting the vote, arrested in the years to come. This group is protesting a foreign conflict at a private university, arrested for not leaving.

It’s interesting that you are trying to shut down this conversation by lumping two unrelated things together, while also accusing “the right” of trying to shut down free speech.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106899 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:08 am to
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They could stop being entitled?


Their negative behavior has been positively reinforced for so long that when they stop receiving reinforcement there is bound to be an extinction burst, and I will watch it with popcorn.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24486 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:13 am to
I say, shoot them.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:13 am to
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In your opinion, is protesting the actions of the Israeli government the same as protesting against the US governments?


Israelis protesting the Israeli government in Israel is the same as Americans protesting the American government in America.

Foreigners who are guests in any country are an entirely different situation. They are on visas for some stated purpose and that stated purpose was not to protest or disrupt the lives of their hosts.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135367 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:22 am to
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This isn’t going to end until we have another Kent State.
and the other side says this isn’t going to end until we have another Kristallnacht.

As for me, if the KKK tries to demonstrate and the effort ends poorly for a few of them, so be it. If other similarly antisemitic groups try to demonstrate and the effort ends poorly for a few of them, so be it.

I have zero empathy for that stuff.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22572 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:28 am to
People protesting peacefully in a space they are allowed to is perfectly fine, do it on medians and other large areas with a permit.

People protesting and getting violent or occupying things after they are told to not do it is a problem.

I don’t care if students want to be retards and support Palestine. I do care if you illegally occupy a space or block a road way.

If you are here on a visa you better not commit a crime.

This would be like me getting a Irish visa then going to one of the protest to get the third worlders out of Ireland then getting upset if they deported me.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 7:29 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55424 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:03 am to
And again, nearly 8 pages where about 6 of it wasn't good debate, but going back and forth with someone that has the absolute worst takes and is purposely trolling the board. Do better Politards.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1893 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:09 am to
quote:

The right has definitely done a 180 on free speech this year.


I don't remember any people on the right saying foreign natonals should be able to protest in the USA - would be interested to know who did.
Posted by theballguy
Between Colorado & DC
Member since Oct 2011
29209 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:18 am to
You love to see it. Absolutely love it
Posted by theballguy
Between Colorado & DC
Member since Oct 2011
29209 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:19 am to
quote:

The right has definitely done a 180 on free speech this year.



Not for foreigners. No right leaner has ever wanted that.

I get that there was a judgment on these things but I think that judgement needs to be reinterpreted
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