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PA is a prime example of why the GOPe barely lifted a finger to fix the voting problems.

Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:36 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:36 am
They are a behind it all.

Ever wonder why Turtle never cried about losing the senate?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
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68319 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:39 am to
Turtle's ideals are in the majority now. He won by losing
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:41 am to
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PA is a prime example of why the GOPe barely lifted a finger to fix the voting problems.


they aren't changing it because they like the system the way it is
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:54 am to
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they aren't changing it because they like the system the way it is


Exactly!
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:56 am to
I wonder when is the last time we have a fair election.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5875 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:59 am to
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I wonder when is the last time we have a fair election.


Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30754 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:02 am to
I honestly believe that map is close to what the country really is.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30754 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:03 am to
The majority of the country doesn’t want to teach or kids about trans.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:38 am to
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I wonder when is the last time we have a fair election.


JFK-Nixon was a little before my time but I’ve read many felt that one sketchy.

In my own lifetime, I’d pretty much felt the outcomes all legit up until this current century started.

My personal WTF moments on maybe having my eyes opened include:

2000 - The first time I can remember Dems acting outright demonic after a loss. “Hanging chads” and all the bullshite that drug for weeks.

2012 - Mittens absolutely destroying an overmatched Obama in the first debate and then inexplicably going into a shell afterwards. Candy Crowley and Obama tag-teaming against Mittens.

2016 - The demonic, vile and unceasing venom unleashed by all corners in DC as soon as Trump was named winner. It never let up the entire 4 years.

2020 - States unprecedented suspending counts overnight only to wake up to a miraculous surge for a guy who barely campaigned. A sitting president increasing his own totals by 11 million over his previous election only to get smoked anyway by a guy who supposedly earned the most votes ever of any candidate.

So yeah, there’s probably been something foul at play for decades and decades but before 2000, it seemed like win or lose, people on both sides of the aisle accepted defeat gracefully and just tried to do better next time. At least that was my perception at the time.

This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 7:40 am
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:44 am to
It certainly is among people who work for a living.
Posted by sostan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
1064 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:45 am to
I feel the same.

May upvotes rain down upon you.
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:46 am to
GPD, you nailed it with excellent, nuanced perception. Would add one item to your timeline.

1980- Establishment Republicans force G.H.W. Bush as vice president onto Ronald Reagan's ticket.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4959 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 7:51 am to
The GOPe would rather be in the minority, its easier for them to be the party of NO, throw a few soundbites out there and use it to constantly capmaign for $$$
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5889 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 8:36 am to
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1980- Establishment Republicans force G.H.W. Bush as vice president onto Ronald Reagan's ticket.





Then, HW's CIA stooges try to kill Reagan and place Bush in power.

But Reagan survives, and is pretty damned successful for 8 years.

Think of how awful the 80s would have been had the global cabal gotten their way with Bush I almost 10 years earlier.

Glad he's roasting.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:19 am to
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I honestly believe that map is close to what the country really is.



That map reminds me of a trivia question:

Who is the only candidate to lose a statewide general election for federal office, either a Democrat or Republican, in all 50 states?
Posted by markinkaty
Katy Tx
Member since Dec 2019
4507 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:25 am to
RINOs egos caused them to make a deal with the godless Marxist devils. They could have accomplished their goals better by infiltrating Trump admin. Pence would be the leading candidate for 2024. Instead, they let the Marxists crash our economy.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:28 am to
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they aren't changing it because they like the system the way it is


how so?

if true, an insurrection is necessary
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:58 am to
PA is a blue state, the GOP was going to lose this seat no matter what. Toomey would lose if he ran, that’s why he quit and is about to get a big payoff as a lobbyist. None of 3 GOP candidates can beat the Democrat. The GOP needs to focus on winning NH, AZ, NV, OH and WI where they have a shot to win.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118859 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:05 am to
Turtle can get more grift on by being the minority leader. Democrat leadership gives him plausible deniability.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11809 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:08 am to
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PA is a blue state, the GOP was going to lose this seat no matter what.

No it isn’t. PA is less blue than NV and NH. It’s a classic purple state and the GOP should absolutely win this seat in this kind of red wave year
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