re: Over 25% of Methodist churches abandon denomination as schism grows over LGBTQ+ issues

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Bible verses are up for interpretation?

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Apparently so.
Catholics think Mary had no other children and Protestants (at least the ones I know) know that Mary had other children. Therefore, two different interpretations of scripture. One of us is right, one of us is wrong. Neither of us will find out until we get to heaven, assuming we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior.

Catholics interpret certain scriptures one way... I'm pretty certain that John MacArthur or Billy Graham or Adrian Rodgers or D. James Kennedy would, via the Holy Spirit, have a completely different interpretation of them.

My question is this....

What does Georgia have to do to repent for what they just did to Florida State OR What did Florida State do that required them to go through THAT as penance.

"3 Hail Mary's and you have to play Georgia"?

"For the sin of murdering a college football team... 1 hail Mary"

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It's time we addressed this Perspicuity of Scripture and Bible Alone doctrine in the light of this homosexual debate.

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What you fail to realize is that the doctrines do not state that each Christian is allowed to interpret the Bible however they want to, as if God didn't have a meaning in what He gave us in the Scriptures. You make it seem like Protestants support a Wild West mentality on Bible interpretation, but that's simply not true. There is a traditional method of biblical hermeneutics that are derived from the Scriptures that help us understand exactly what God intends.

The homosexual debate isn't even an attack on perspicuity or sola scriptura, at least not as you want it to be. In fact, this particular issue proves the point for the clarity of Scripture and the authority of Scripture.

The "woke" progressives who claim Christianity do not use biblical hermeneutics to interpret Scripture, and ultimately, they are not governed by the authority of Scripture at all. Just like Rome, the progressives use their traditions to interpret the Bible rather than the other way around.

It's precisely because the progressives reject the authority of the Scriptures and the clarity of them that they try to push their case.

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I figured you'd go back to the Circular Logic of "The Bible is perfectly clear but THAT guy is wrong about what that passage clearly states.

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I try to be consistent with my application of biblical principles.

It's precisely because I believe the Bible is clear that I can look at obviously false interpretations and beliefs and say that they are wrong. Not everything the Bible says is as equally clear, and yet there are some things that are obviously contradictory, such as the homosexual agenda of calling evil good. If you want to argue perspicuity, this is not the issue to do so. And even so, there are disagreements and differences in interpretation even within Catholicism. It's just "different" because differences still fall within the shell of Catholicism, so you can pretend there is still unity.

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In other words, we are back to Protestantism's fundamental flaw - the Bible says whatever any person says that it says.

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For someone who is very concerned about people mischaracterizing Catholic teaching, you are quite loose with your words regarding Protestant beliefs. In no way, shape, or form do I believe that the Bible can say whatever any person says it says. That's an abuse of God's word and ultimately makes God a liar who isn't the font of truth, but the font of relativism and lacking in truth, because if everything is "true", then nothing is true.

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If I say that a passage clearly states "A", then Foo simply comes along and says, no, it clearly states "B". What happens after that? Foo and I have two NEW sects of Protestantism.

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Not necessarily. I'm Presbyterian so I don't believe splits are always necessary; quite the opposite.

However, as much as I hate disunity, it's the natural conclusion in a sinful world where the consciences are not bound by fallible men. Truth is more important than unity. That's why the Reformation happened.

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Where are all of the Protestants who love to viciously attack the RCC?

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Y'all don't need us. There are plenty of Catholics doing that.

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Going to church isn't about what you get out of it. It's about what you contribute to it.

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I disagree. If you aren't being fed by attending your Church then your contribution will grow stale or it becomes rote.

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The Bible clearly states that Mary was the mother of at least 2 other men and names them.

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Something similar to this was posted a couple days ago, but specifically in reference to Jude.

Jude 1:1 states that he is the brother of James.

Matthew 27:55-56 tells us about the women who follow Jesus to the cross.

Mary Magdalene was one, Mary the mother of James (the less) and Joseph was another, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee, James (the Great) and John.

If we read further in Matthew 27:59-61, we see an account of the Mary's who go to Jesus' tomb.

These are the same two Mary's who were at the foot of the cross in verses 55-56, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, the mother of James the Less and Joseph.

In the Gospel of John, we get another piece of evidence of who Mary, mother of James the Less and Joseph, was.

John 19:25 says she is the sister of Mary (Jesus' mom) and the wife of Clopas.

So James the Less and Joseph are the sons of Clopas and Mary of Clopas. Jude was a brother of James the Less. Therefore, Jude was a first cousin of Jesus, since his mother and Jesus' mother were sisters.

Who is the other named son of Mary that you're referencing?

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Does this help?

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it all goes back to that link I posted. various interpretations of the greek language.

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yeah but your are reformed Presbyterian, not Baptist or Methodist. So at least you guys have something going for you

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What's wrong with Baptists?

I know I'm going to regret asking that... but what the heck.