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re: OUR President DISAVOWS Project 2025

Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:28 pm to
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Replacing them?

As opposed to leaving the "Deep State" in place?
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:34 pm to
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As opposed to leaving the "Deep State" in place?


Nope, more like thinning the herd, or cutting the fat.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10607 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:37 pm to
Trump make a strategic denial. A wise political move. He’s likely in favor of large parts of their stated policy.

The rest of the debate is just fluff.

How much will he, or can he do? Hard to say.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23160 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:38 pm to
I've never heard of it except for Progfilth handwringing over it.

They believe that made up shite is literally Trump's master plan for dictatorship.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78258 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:52 pm to
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Part of the plan includes firing federal employees that conservatives believe are preventing right-wing policies from being implemented and replacing them with their own picks
Sounds good.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Nope, more like thinning the herd, or cutting the fat.

That will require Congress and may have due process issues.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:04 pm to
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That will require Congress and may have due process issues.


Yep, the old "Civil Servant" thing. It was well on it's way before the steal. Called "Schedule F".

Those people are the "Deep State", essentially.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6101 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:05 pm to
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MAGA is not about "being left alone"


Expound on this good sir
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10607 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:05 pm to
Large parts of it wouldn’t require Congressional approval, and would avoid separation of power issues. It would be argued to delay, but executive orders with respect to federal agencies is settled law.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24631 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:09 pm to
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It shows how different he is from these old school policy wonks.



Exactly this. The Republican Party has given Trump nothing but bullshite. They're a vehicle to the presidency but after that, frick every single one of them. The fact Bannon is in jail right now tells me everything I need to know about where the loser R party stands... they're gutless, rudderless, trash. Afraid to govern, afraid to legislate, and only trying to secure riches for themselves through PAC appointments or lobbyist gigs.

The majority of them are no better than Dems, with the difference being that Dems get things accomplished. The GOPe just dicks around and does nothing but forget about the people who brought them to the dance.

Any of you hacks who are out here white-knighting for the Heritage Foundation are the same fruits who loved the McCain and Romney campaigns. You love to lose.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17686 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:20 pm to
I hadn't heard of this until someone asked me about it this morning. Glad he came out and said something, because the rumors were gaining momentum.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:22 pm to
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but executive orders with respect to federal agencies is settled law.

Which case(s)?
Posted by HeadLightBanDit
Hernando, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:26 pm to
Ok. I'll go.

Conservatives...
"We're all about small government. We just want to be left alone!"

Also Conservatives
"Hey lady, what are you doing with that vagina?!?"

If you'd like, we can delve into the whole forcing the Bible to be taught to children in Oklahoma classrooms regardless of their faith, or the Ten Commandments being mandated to be on display in Louisiana.

Yes. That certainly sounds like "being left alone" doesn't it???
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 5:28 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75404 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:27 pm to
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This is all about abortion.

DJT has made his position crystal clear - leave it to the states. That's the whole point of the Dobbs decision at SCOTUS.

The topic is 100% radioactive and a loser for Republicans on a national stage. If you are a Republican candidate and obsessed with abortion, run for your state house/Senate.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10607 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:31 pm to
You co-mingle a general principal with a localized incident. You also misrepresent the issue as abortion when it is actually a federalism and state’s right issue. You ascribe isolated incidents and beliefs as broad partisan policy.


I’m not sure what to tell you buddy, but you’re not a smart as you think you are.

Are you an Alt for the attorney on here that doesn’t understand law? Or an Alt for those fricked up Ohio State posters?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:34 pm to
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Expound on this good sir

a. Social issues, backing the blue, etc. I don't think we need to get too much into that. That's just standard conservative stuff that's always clashed with the "leave us alone" political ideology (libertarianism).

b. Economically, Trump (and MAGA vicariously) is all about intervening in the free market, "picking winners and losers", and engaging in tax-and-redistribute programs.

c. Miscellaneous. Trump enacted the bump stock ban, so he's nowhere close to a 2A advocate, even. He also engaged militarily the one chance he had (Syria) due to emotional reacts. He offered no real path to decreasing federal spending and our debt increased each year of his presidency PRIOR to Covid. And then there was all the Covid stuff (which may require its own separate subsection to fully articulate all of the expansion of government, all the way through pushing the vax).
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:36 pm to
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"Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."


It's called plausable denial. A Trump specialty.

Who says Trump can't speak out of both sides of his mouth.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:39 pm to
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We are POPULISTS, not conservatives
What differentiates a populist from a conservative??
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86320 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:46 pm to
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What are they saying that's abysmal? I've only read their official site and it seems like a conservative hiring campaign.



Some guy pushing it went on tv and it got the entire left in a crazy psychosis. These were pretty much all the headlines.

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Right-Wing Think Tank Leader Promises Revolution, Warns of ‘Bloodshed’


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The president of the Heritage Foundation is suddenly talking like a member of the Oath Keepers


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Project 2025 Architect Signals Bloodshed If Left Opposes Trump-Led 'Revolution'


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Project 2025 Leader Promises 'Second American Revolution'


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Project 2025, if allowed, will cement America as a rightwing authoritarian state


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Lawmakers Unite to Combat Far-Right Project 2025 Initiative


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'That's treason': Project 2025 leader shocks with veiled threat of bloody revolution


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‘Project 2025’ and the Movement That Could Erode Black Equality


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REPORT: ‘Project 2025’ Manifesto Co-Author Stephen Moore Has Toxic History of Misogynistic, Racist, and Anti-Social Security Rhetoric


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Forget Trump. Project 2025 is the greatest threat to democracy we have seen in our country’s history.



This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 5:53 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:47 pm to
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What differentiates a populist from a conservative??

Conservatives have principles.

Populists have emotions.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 5:48 pm
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