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re: Our local PD set up a decoy sting operation. I'd like your opinions

Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:54 pm to
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I believe that the state creating the circumstances for a crime to occur and then arresting a citizen is fricked up bull shite.


Sounds like a certain Special Counsel I know of.

I won’t mention his name, but it sounds a lot like Schlobert Kruller.
Posted by darnol91
Member since Jun 2015
749 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:56 pm to
They definitely do this is northeastern LA. I actually knew a girl the cops paid to do it. Scum.
Posted by Dawginthewoods
Oconee National Forest
Member since Nov 2017
331 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:59 pm to
Seems like they need to start with the Indian ( like dot on the head not the Elizabeth warren kind) owned stores first. You know the ones who accept EBT for alcohol and gas. I never got carded after 15 in one of these stores and my high school aged brother told me recently that they go to these stores now for their alcohol.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170698 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:02 pm to
This reminds me of the sting operations in restaurants. Pay some 20 year old that looks 25 to go in and order a drink in an extremely busy restaurant. Then when the busy server neglects to card them they get fined and lose their job.

I fail to see the positive side of such sting operations.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135592 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:04 pm to
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Our local PD set up a decoy sting operation. I'd like your opinions
Obscenely ridiculous.

Why don't they put Kate Upton on a corner soliciting and see if they can lure "johns"; or have Matt McConaughey solicit lonely middle aged women at a bar?
Lots of crime to be created out there.

SMH.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31565 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:04 pm to
Pure entrapment, seems like a waste of resources
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:05 pm to
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I fail to see the positive side of such sting operations.




This discussion is the positive. it alerts those that may commit this crime to not commit the crime. It is not about catching, it about stopping
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87570 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:07 pm to
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This discussion is the positive. it alerts those that may commit this crime to not commit the crime. It is not about catching, it about stopping


It’s not the state’s place to create cautionary tales. There are plenty of those out there now.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170698 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:08 pm to
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This discussion is the positive. it alerts those that may commit this crime to not commit the crime

The people that committed the crime wouldn't have done so of state paid actors didn't encourage them to do so
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
25765 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:08 pm to
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This grant-funded operation is designed to reduce underage consumption of, and access to, alcohol by deterring adults from furnishing alcohol to teens outside of licensed premises.

And just how many teens did they stop from drinking with this waste of our tax dollars.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50491 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:09 pm to
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Mulat


You sound like a raging liberal in this thread.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170698 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:10 pm to
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It’s not the state’s place to create cautionary tales. There are plenty of those out there now.

Not to mention they could just announced that they're conducting these stings without ever actually doing it and have the same deterring effect without wasting resources.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135592 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Not to mention they could just announced that they're conducting these stings without ever actually doing it and have the same deterring effect without wasting resources.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39016 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:16 pm to
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You would think 100% of adults would say "No"... but four adults in separate incidents took money from the teens and purchased alcohol for them.


Uh, no...you wouldn't remotely think that.

Did this cop ever go to High School?

What a pathetic and lame arse sting operation. Tax dollars at work. Keeping the streets safe from teens and beer.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50491 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:16 pm to
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Not to mention they could just announced that they're conducting these stings without ever actually doing it and have the same deterring effect without wasting resources.


Exactly.

Albuquerque has a car theft problem.

They started putting these up in parking lots:



Are there actual bait cars in the area?

I have no idea.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138137 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:20 pm to
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This reminds me of the sting operations in restaurants. Pay some 20 year old that looks 25 to go in and order a drink in an extremely busy restaurant. Then when the busy server neglects to card them they get fined and lose their job.

I fail to see the positive side of such sting operations.


They usually flip some kid that got busted for MIP. The production they go through for this is completely ridiculous. They do it so they can self fund their operations through fines. Much like most local PDs
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170698 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:23 pm to
If there are reports of rampant underrage serving of alcohol at an establishment (which is what these laws are intended to prevent) it seems like it would be fairly easy to police without the need for a sting op.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:26 pm to
I mean it's Cali. you'd think they'd catch some pervs like that.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31565 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:28 pm to
I have a buddy who started a business in Atlanta to train bars and restaurants to be "responsible"

Part of the deal is he sends minors into places to audit the staff and see if they get served

He typically sends a guy that is obviously of age in with an 18 or 20 year old chick

The bars save more on insurance than they pay him & he provides legal counsel when and if they get nabbed in a real sting (which the cops do run sometimes)
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138137 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:30 pm to
It's all about making money to fund their organization under the guise of public safety
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