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re: Our government has gone so off-track, I pause and listen to what the Russians have to say

Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:03 am to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43958 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:03 am to
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Americans and Europeans are engaged in "quasi-colonial methods of subjugation." “Our future is being shaped by a struggle, a struggle between the global majority, in favor of a fair distribution of global benefits… and the few who wield near-colonial methods of subjugation in order to maintain their dominance, which is slipping through their fingers."


I’m not sure how an objective observer could argue against this premise.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18793 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:40 am to
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What does he say about shelling apartment complexes and kidnapping and trafficking Ukraine children?


FFS indeed. The US made children illegals refugees, not pending legals but refugees, that little change ensured they get cash. Thats why you see all the fcking kidnapped children being brought across the border, the cartel is guaranteed to be paid coyote fees by the US govt. Goes to the family who then turns it over to the coyotes. The US is the largest human trafficking organization in the world, and goodness knows what happens to these kids after the gubt checks have been cashed.

And missiles on apt complexes, the same ones our intel is talking about jamming their guidance? Or how about the missile strike that killed 17 innocent, including a poor child last week and it was.....Ukranian. With all our tech did it go awry or did they purposely kill their own friggin people to impress blinken who was there that day????

And the hungarian missile crisis NOT the cuban missile crisis started when we put them in Hungary and the soviets responded. 60 years have passed and we have continued to expand NATO breaking our word (which used to mean something) over and over again. But hey, we did not specifically word it that way in a formal agreement, ha ha, we got them. Most here had lauded how incompetent Russia is then, pray tell, why do we need to continue to expand NATO to their borders, why, so we can thief money in the name of sovereignty, sovereignty of a puppet govt we set up.

You bunch of naive ukraine flag waving idiots. There are conflicts in dozens of countries worldwide, with horrible atrocities, why arent we giving those countries 130 billion dollars, ask yourself that simple question. Certainly it cant be fear of Russia, you have told us repeatedly how inept they are. And it cant be a nuclear threat, we have been told repeatedly that is not an issue, so what is it, what is it, think hard.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18793 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:47 am to
The cuban missile crisis is a good analogy because the US provoked that by first placing missiles in Hungary and USSR responded by putting them in Cuba. We did not negotiate some great "the other guy blinked" scenario. We simply stopped the bullshite and told them we would remove the missiles......course dont cha know that was a separate agreement and had nothing to do with the Cuban affair, all to save face that we flexed and then had to run like scalded dogs.

Only difference now is we are using 100s of thousands of Ukraine soldiers and millions of its citizens all to enrich a few people.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18793 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:49 am to
Sovereign, sovereign, what the fck does that even mean. Ukraine is so corrupt it makes Rhodesia blush, they have never been a sovereign country.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:58 am to
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You bunch of naive ukraine flag waving idiots.
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Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:00 am to
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Sovereign, sovereign, what the fck does that even mean. Ukraine is so corrupt it makes Rhodesia blush, they have never been a sovereign country.

and have always been a festering pit of deceit, corruption, and lies

as the original root source of Khazarian Mafia evil

continuing today

playing to the mass of morons waving the stupid fckg Ukr flag
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:02 am to
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We are indeed the bad guys

That does not mean Russians are white hats; but we started this war, we are escalating it and it is all for power and money
and it needs to CEASE! YESTERDAY!
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:02 am to
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I’m not sure how an objective observer could argue against this premise.


Well, there’s a fair bit of sappy nonsense in there for starters.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22762 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:28 am to
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the West and NATO's role in Ukraine has gone well beyond just a hybrid or proxy war, but it's actually become a "direct" war-


This is what I never understood. We can act like we aren’t directly involved, but only Russias opinion matters. If they think we are at war, then we are.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7622 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:30 am to
What is really telling is that it appears that no one is attempting to broker any type of cease fire/ peace treaty.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38732 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:41 am to
Russia didn't assassinate JFK, 'WE' (CIA Op) did.

I despise what our once virtuous Government has now become, and that despicable 'government' will take us into a calamitous WW before giving up their pernicious power. Hell, you'd think that Dem Marxist would be allied with Communist Russia more so than challenging them to the death, albeit Nationalist Mother Russia defends her own unique culture and resists the Globalist Transnational Progressive/Fascist homogenization of Humanity, and therein lies the conflict.

It's coming.

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43958 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:54 am to
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Well, there’s a fair bit of sappy nonsense in there for starters.



Care to point any out?


Romans had legions and innovations that kept territories in line.
The British had a navy and innovations that kept colonies in line.
Post WWII America had the most technologically advanced military in the history of the world and the world's reserve currency to go along with the innovations.


Make no mistake. America has run the greatest empire in the history of the world for nearly the last 100 years. We 'won' in Iraq and went billions in debt. We 'won' in Afghanistan and went billions in debt. Maybe we will 'win' in Ukraine and be trillions in debt. IMO, we are nearing the end stage of this run. I just hope the landing will be soft, but I doubt it.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1583 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:57 am to
There never was a reason for this war other than to launder money like the elites always have.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22938 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:59 am to
I wouldn't listen to the Russian government but did listen to a speech by the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church. He condemned Western nations for condoning homosexuality.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:29 am to
"It's been proven more than once Zelensky has shelled his own people and blamed the Russians."

If so, merely borrowing a page from Putin's machiavellian approach to rule, even if if requires deception.

Because it's also been proven that he tasked his FSB to plant explosive devices around his own country which caused death and destruction to some of his own people.

Done solely so he could whip his own people into a frenzy by blaming it on the Chechens, in his mind affording himself license to resume the bombing of Chechnya.

Until Russian citizens caught his FSB in the act which required a quick explanation that was insulting on its face that the Russian people were expected to believe.

As for searching for the truth by depending on the Russians, it does seem to be a logical move.

Pravda has always been able to be counted on to deliver the straight scoop.

Since this fawning and gushing over a Bolshevik devotee of Lenin - who probably experiences alternating episodes of black depression and delusions of grandeur - seems not to have abated here, too bad Putin doesn't have his own version of "fireside chats" so we could learn just how wonderful a guy was his hero and role model Lenin and Putin's vision of bloodless Realpolitik.

Maybe after this is all over he could be invited here as a guest lecturer at Columbia.

Just about every other revisionist, Leninist-marxist managed to locate there from 1935 on.






Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:55 am to
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I wouldn't listen to the Russian government but did listen to a speech by the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church. He condemned Western nations for condoning homosexuality.


Did he condemn Putin for genocide and child trafficking?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466463 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:56 am to
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The US and its subordinate Western collective are continuing to fuel conflicts which artificially divide humanity into hostile blocks and hamper the achievement of overall aims,


Wait, which country invaded another?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466463 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:57 am to
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Did he condemn Putin for genocide and child trafficking?

Putin being the largest child trafficker on Earth should cause some NPC malfunctioning for the Sound of Freedom crowd
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:57 am to
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trinidadtiger


That's some sweet deflection right there.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:58 am to
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Wait, which country invaded another?

search this forum for "Victoria Nuland" and "State Department Ukraine 2014"

you will find the answer right beside "colonial methods of subjugation in order to maintain their dominance"

and its not really "maintain dominance" as it is FCK around because well just FCK around - by some of the most evil people in history
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 10:03 am
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