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re: Opponents to ask for rehearing in St. George matter
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:07 am to teke184
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:07 am to teke184
Wiki says 70% white and 12% black. And those numbers would be higher on the black end if the original boundaries were put to a vote instead of the second attempt’s boundaries that cut out areas not interested in the effort.
Which means Kip et all played themselves by killing the vote.
Which means Kip et all played themselves by killing the vote.
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:09 am to teke184
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Which means Kip et all played themselves by killing the vote.
Yep. All they had to do was allow SBR to create its school district. Or hell, even just build a couple new schools in the area to serve the exploding population (in the late 2000's).
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why? So you can avoid the question?
No. Anyone who wants to post about that off topic rambling can...in the new thread. Stop derailing this one.
This is hopefully the last response to this attempt at digression and derailing a thread on a specific topic.
As the OP of this thread I think I'd like to hear your answer to the question.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:10 am to Indefatigable
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Yep. All they had to do was allow SBR to create its school district. Or hell, even just build a couple new schools in the area to serve the exploding population (in the late 2000's).
A literal example of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:13 am to SlowFlowPro
They thought they could cow people and they would just walk away and leave them in control of the money.
Not so much when it comes to their kids and their grandkids’ future chances.
Not so much when it comes to their kids and their grandkids’ future chances.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:27 am to tharre4
mop has no standing.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
But I thought AA's want separate spaces from Whitey
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:52 am to teke184
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Until St George files for an ISD, how can they claim there is a case to be made based on that possibility?
Arguably, it's premature.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:55 am to udtiger
Arguably? It is clearly premature, especially since StG has declared the SEBR ISD dead and that they will submit a new one down the road after the city is more established.
You can’t challenge something that hasn’t been formulated and proposed. The district would need to pass for it to even be legally challenged.
You can’t challenge something that hasn’t been formulated and proposed. The district would need to pass for it to even be legally challenged.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:01 am to Indefatigable
Question: Is BR still under a desegregation consent decree or is that ancient history?
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:02 am to teke184
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Arguably? It is clearly premature, especially since StG has declared the SEBR ISD dead and that they will submit a new one down the road after the city is more established.
You can’t challenge something that hasn’t been formulated and proposed. The district would need to pass for it to even be legally challenged.
Oh, I agree.
But you know federal judges always seem to find standing and a cause if action when they want to.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:05 am to KiwiHead
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Question: Is BR still under a desegregation consent decree or is that ancient history?
I believe it has been dead since shortly after Judge Parker retired, which is why Baker, Zachary, and Central were all able to spin off their own ISDs.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:09 am to KiwiHead
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Is BR still under a desegregation consent decree or is that ancient history?
I'm not sure. The consent decree on BRPD and BRFD hiring was lifted in the last few years.
I don't know whether the desegregation decree was lifted as part of the settlement with DOJ and the NAACP in the early 2000's or not. I couldn't find an answer via a quick google search.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:15 am to Indefatigable
Can’t find dates on the end of the case.
What I am finding are articles about the 50th anniversary of the initial case and The Advocate argued that Parker’s bussing plan was right but implemented 10 years too late.
IOW, the plan was sound but those damn white flight academies wrecked it, not that the plan was doomed from the start.
What I am finding are articles about the 50th anniversary of the initial case and The Advocate argued that Parker’s bussing plan was right but implemented 10 years too late.
IOW, the plan was sound but those damn white flight academies wrecked it, not that the plan was doomed from the start.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:21 am to teke184
Then in which case the residents of St George should go for it at full speed. No doubt though the NAACP will go to Federal Court though. But I don't think they have much to stand on.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:49 am to tharre4
This will get tossed. It's crazy to me how this was not a 7-0 vote. The three who voted against this clearly don't care about the law.
I do believe they will find a judge in the middle district to try to block the ISD from forming if/when it comes to that. It will be overruled on appeal.
The big issue is going to be the lawsuits when it comes to getting the money that was supposed to be escrowed.
I do believe they will find a judge in the middle district to try to block the ISD from forming if/when it comes to that. It will be overruled on appeal.
The big issue is going to be the lawsuits when it comes to getting the money that was supposed to be escrowed.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:16 pm to BigBinBR
Ok then… they can join with StG, Central, and Zachary to kill it.
BR will refuse to go along with doing so and I figure Baker is codependent with BR because Baker and NBR are fairly interchangeable these days.
BR will refuse to go along with doing so and I figure Baker is codependent with BR because Baker and NBR are fairly interchangeable these days.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:27 pm to tharre4
The Advocate let the cat of the bag on the reasons
The Advocate
We see now that she is really working for the Power Brokers funding the lawsuit. She and her legal team are trying to get the annexation date declared as of April 26, 2024 to prevent St. George from collecting the back taxes owed from October 2019 to present, and also to get their annexations filed after the 2019 election certification date validated.
My worry is that the Louisiana Supreme court will agree with this while still appearing to side with St. George on the incorporation, but being influenced by the likes of John Enquist, Charles Landry and Dick Lipsey.
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But Pierson said the Supreme Court failed to address two major components of the incorporation: the city's official boundaries and date of incorporation. Both are up to the courts to decide, according to state law.
The Advocate
We see now that she is really working for the Power Brokers funding the lawsuit. She and her legal team are trying to get the annexation date declared as of April 26, 2024 to prevent St. George from collecting the back taxes owed from October 2019 to present, and also to get their annexations filed after the 2019 election certification date validated.
My worry is that the Louisiana Supreme court will agree with this while still appearing to side with St. George on the incorporation, but being influenced by the likes of John Enquist, Charles Landry and Dick Lipsey.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:28 pm to teke184
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Ok then… they can join with StG, Central, and Zachary to kill it.
I agree. There is no longer a need for a consolidated government. Hopefully that will be addressed soon
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