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Only 49% of Americans approve of Trump’s economy

Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46041 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:42 pm
I heard that on Fox News and thought, “who’s suffering under Trump’s record job creation and booming economy”?

Then it occurred to me, we have more jobs than bodies to fill those jobs. We have more people on disability, I believe it’s like 10 million working age people are receiving disability benefits of some sort.

So who are the people who don’t approve of Trump’s handling of the economy? Obviously it’s the people who are afraid their gravy train is gonna get derailed. I know two people, one is a family member by marriage on full disability, the other is a friend of the family, full disability.
Either one could work plenty of jobs if they wanted to but they don’t have to. Maybe not what they were doing but with a little retooling they’d be good to go.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:46 pm to
His rating on the rcp average is solid, it's like +8 on average.
Posted by Uncle Don
The Big House
Member since Jul 2018
4229 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:48 pm to
frickers that are about to have to get off the porch and get a job are hating this economy
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79071 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:50 pm to
GEOTUS could give every American a million bucks each and they’d still complain. Considering there is a minimal shot to get them on our side, why does he even try to bridge the divide? Seems futile to me. Only ones he should be concerned about bringing over are the blacks and Hispanics. White liberals are programmed and retarded by nature so they’ll never wisen up.

When’s the last time you heard of an Obama syncophant say “know what? I voted for Barry but I really like what Trump is doing”. Delusional dumfricks.
Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2022 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:10 pm to
i'm 60 and on full disability and I am loving what Trump is doing, it's not about me, it's about what is best for America and Americans
Posted by CobraKaiNeverDies
Mr. MIA
Member since Oct 2018
196 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:13 pm to
I'm gonna go ahead an play devil's advocate, in that the economic growth hasn't spread out evenly at all. Big winners of this boom are still the mega-rich. I think the 2008 recession and bank bailout at the expense of homeowners was the ultimate dagger to the heart of the middle class and without October-style Soviet revolution you'll just never be able to prop up the middle class again. Working class Americans are resilient people, but they can be bled so much by vultures of WallStreet and Washington DC.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53828 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:18 pm to
That’s because only 49% of us fricking work!
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6287 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:20 pm to
Lots of people are under employed. Working 60+ hour weeks and multiple jobs for crap wages and mediocre health care.

I live in Nashville and the economy recovered here 5 years ago. I got $7500 cost of living raise in 2016 on top of a yearly 5% performance raise.

Lots of people here though are struggling to make ends meet. There are grown men with roommates or people having to take over an hour commute for work because nothing in the city is affordable.

Inflation and the cost of living are severely outpacing wages in a lot of places.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:21 pm to
Imagine what the nation would be like without the ones that don’t.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12362 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:23 pm to
That has nothing to do with TRUMP...... that has everything to do with greedy landlords jacking up rent and rental space for businesses.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:26 pm to
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Working 60+ hour weeks and multiple jobs for crap wages and mediocre health care.



I call bullshite.

I hire guys, and it's tough to recruit now... even at $3k/mo with company vehicle, housing, and gas. Not a shitty job, either.

There are so many jobs out there they can ghost and get another job and it doesn't matter.
Posted by CobraKaiNeverDies
Mr. MIA
Member since Oct 2018
196 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Lots of people are under employed. Working 60+ hour weeks and multiple jobs for crap wages and mediocre health care.

I live in Nashville and the economy recovered here 5 years ago. I got $7500 cost of living raise in 2016 on top of a yearly 5% performance raise.

Lots of people here though are struggling to make ends meet. There are grown men with roommates or people having to take over an hour commute for work because nothing in the city is affordable.

Inflation and the cost of living are severely outpacing wages in a lot of places.



THIS.
EXACTLY.
THIS.

Real wages are less than cost of inflation- food and housing went up in price disproportionately to wage increases. People are hurting, without a doubt. All this talk of stock market can pound itself in the a-hole- stock market is 0 sum gain. Half of it is bubbles and speculation by hedge funders.

The massive heist of 2008 was an all-time redistribution of wealth in the American history. Banks should have failed an people should have been allowed to stay in their homes.

And nobody on WallStreet even went to jail. Riddle me that.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 11:48 pm
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12362 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:49 pm to
I’m just curious who gets all of the polls sent to them. I don’t know a single person who I know that has ever been part of a poll before an election.

It’s all made up bullshite.

I have lived a long time and i have never ever been asked to be part of a political poll

It’s all smoke and mirrors. I would think with the 45 years of living on this earth in the USA.. I have never once been asked to vote for a bullshite poll... land line, cell phone, in person...

Politics is WWF Wrestling. It’s all fricking FAKE
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 11:53 pm
Posted by CobraKaiNeverDies
Mr. MIA
Member since Oct 2018
196 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:57 pm to
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That has nothing to do with TRUMP...... that has everything to do with greedy landlords jacking up rent and rental space for businesses.


Neither Obama nor even Trump really improved financial well-being of middle class. At least Trump has marginally improved the overall economy, but the redistribution of wealth will certainly continue. The wealth disparity has basically reached a runaway point- you can't catch up to the mega-wealthy because they have too much money and can take too many risks average man/woman who's living from paycheck to paycheck cannot. It's past the point of no-return, and the end point of it is either violent revolution or Robocop-Future Detroit-type society with police state and very poor populace leaving in slums.

I don't know, maybe I"m too pessimistic, but it's not hard to see through this S&P and Dow smokescreen. True, people have more job opportunities, but wealth inequality keeps rising. That cannot continue forever.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3425 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:09 am to
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The massive heist of 2008 was an all-time redistribution of wealth in the American history. Banks should have failed an people should have been allowed to stay in their homes.


While I agree that the banks should have been allowed to fail; enlighten me on the "people should have been able to stay in their homes" issue. Because I took out a loan on my house in 2004, which was previous to this 2008 Domesday and I still have my house. Was I lucky? Did I do some crazy thing that these other people didn't or couldn't do? I'd like to know so that I can spread the message to help those in trouble as I don't recall doing anything special when I took out my loan.

Please help me understand so that I may help others.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13364 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:39 am to
An act was passed that "forced" banks to offer loans to people who would not have qualified in the past. You had individuals, with no qualified income buying a home, with no money down, and no mortgage insurance, with a "adjustable negative interest loan", the interest rates tick up, the housing market ticks down, and suddenly you are left with a note worth far more than the house and you cant afford to pay it so you walk away.

They didnt "lose their home" they lost a speculative gamble, they should have been renting in the first place.
Posted by CobraKaiNeverDies
Mr. MIA
Member since Oct 2018
196 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 3:37 am to
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While I agree that the banks should have been allowed to fail; enlighten me on the "people should have been able to stay in their homes" issue. Because I took out a loan on my house in 2004, which was previous to this 2008 Domesday and I still have my house. Was I lucky? Did I do some crazy thing that these other people didn't or couldn't do? I'd like to know so that I can spread the message to help those in trouble as I don't recall doing anything special when I took out my loan.

Please help me understand so that I may help others.


While it was wrong for some people to gamble on a housing bubble and write checks their arse couldn't cash, the big banks were doing the same derivative gambles but on a bigger scale. So it came down to banks failing and not being able to collect on debts owed through those worthless derivatives they already profited on, or letting the people some of who were duped into getting houses they couldn't afford. I'm gonna side with regular people on that, because it's better for the economy that way. Actually, if people were allowed to stay in their homes and banks failed, the housing wouldn't have as dramatic of a crash because there wouldn't be this sudden oversupply of housing inventory in 2009-2011.

Obama and Bernanke and other heathens in the establishment sold working people out for banksters. Let's never get distracted from that.

Posted by CobraKaiNeverDies
Mr. MIA
Member since Oct 2018
196 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 3:43 am to
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An act was passed that "forced" banks to offer loans to people who would not have qualified in the past. You had individuals, with no qualified income buying a home, with no money down, and no mortgage insurance, with a "adjustable negative interest loan", the interest rates tick up, the housing market ticks down, and suddenly you are left with a note worth far more than the house and you cant afford to pay it so you walk away.

They didnt "lose their home" they lost a speculative gamble, they should have been renting in the first place.


Banks were packaging these weak CCC rating loans into derivates and selling them as AAA stock making huge profits. Then it was banks getting bailed with everyone's tax dollar those vs regular silly people.

frick that. I hope you're not trying to apologize here for Wall Street greed on here. Banks don't run the economy. One crashes another one pops up- they don't produce anything, it's a service or taking someone's money and lending it to other parties. No need to glorify it as "too big to bail".
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 3:44 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123888 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 4:31 am to
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Only 49% of Americans approve of Trump’s economy
Perhaps related to the fact >50% of Americans receive more in 'welfare' than they pay in taxes?

That would seem to correlate.




Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16202 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:37 am to
What happens on Wall Street has nothing to do with me and my personal decisions.

No one forces you to buy a home.
No one forces you to invest in stocks.

No one should sit around and compare themselves to others. It’s not healthy. Work hard. Pay your bills. Save for the future.
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