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re: One Second After & EMP Attack

Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

The point of the book is how to prepare for it when it happens.


I enjoyed the book quite a bit.

But, I didn't learn how to "prepare for it" from that book. I learned I'll eat a bullet quickly. frick that kind of "living"
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:38 pm to
I listened to One Second After on audio during a long arse drive for work. The next few days were a bit of anxiety overload ...lol
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24786 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:49 pm to
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It will make you think about how you even locate your family, let alone find a safe place and survive in that place. 
My family would be easy to locate, even with zero forms of electronic communications or phones. And we have several places to weather the storm if needed.

If any of you can't say the same, you should consider a process to get to where you can say the same.

I'm no rich dude either. Middle class, blue collar, living barely above paycheck to paycheck. But I'm an outdoorsman and a survivor, and have taught my family the same skills. Between that and connections/ability to barter and trade with close friends and family, we'll be ok for some time.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Why would anyone try a very difficult and costly EMP pulse attack on the US when they can take down electrical grids with a Stuxnet-type immobilising hack software?


That may have been an actual possibility even five years ago, but not now.

Most of the US grid has been hardened far beyond the ability of a large-scale virus-based attack succeeding.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:58 pm to
I live in a largely lawless city in the South. I work in one area and have kids and a wife in two other areas.

If an EMP occurred like in this book, it’d kill my truck and my wife’s ride. This is not a place to walk home in a presumably chaotic event.

I have guns like I have wrinkles, but I don’t go to work with an AR.

As stated, getting my family together, and then getting out of town to land I own would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for me as I sit here today.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:04 pm to
A virus really hasn't been on the radar so much as either an EMP or a decentralized widespread attack on infrastructure by Muslims.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12654 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:04 pm to
Nice read but not realistic because the book never mentioned nuclear power plant meltdowns. All the doom prepares never really mention it either
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:04 pm to
Preplan baw.


Have a meeting place designated beforehand. In your case it sounds like it would be difficult but you can't not try. Only a fraction of the population is even aware of such an event, much less prepared for one. ANYTHING you do will put you light years ahead of anyone else. In the first few hours, people would be in "snatch me some Jordans" mode. That's a pretty good window to get your family to a central place and take it from there.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:16 pm to
Yeah, it’s crazy terrifying.
Posted by TigerGyp
Lafayette
Member since May 2006
975 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:30 pm to
It's not just the grid. Every electrical device would be fried. Radio, telephone, tv, cars, cash registers, banks, credit cards, medical devices etc. Think about it.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21238 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Think about it.


Nope, because an EMP attack is about the dumbest idea out there. It really just is not possible to achieve without invoking a MAD response. Only a nuclear country could attempt it and even then you are down to 2 possible countries in Russia and China. NK is not capable.

No terrorist cell is going to be able to achieve it. They might be able to piece together a dirty bomb or small nuke to blow up a city, but they are not detonating a 1MT device over central USA launched by an ICBM.

A biological attack on America is more plausible than an EMP attack.
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:48 pm to
Help me here, serious.
Risk, something with harmful effect
Negative risk,,something not likely to have harmful effect
outlying risk, something out of the normal types of risk
negative outlying risk, risk out of normal types of risk, not likely to have harmful effect?

Serious query, trying to understand negative outlying risk.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:51 pm to
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It will make you think about how you even locate your family


I think checking at home would be a good first step
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

One Second After & EMP Attack

All you city boys kiss your arse your wife and your kids goodbye...... Jesus somewhere there is Hank Jr song
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:02 pm to
My understanding, admittedly infantile on this subject, is that there is not a need for an ICBM. A few old Scuds launched off of barges off the pacific, gulf and Atlantic coasts simultaneously could do the trick.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:08 pm to
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I’m sure it’s been mentioned on here ...

Yeah, you could say that. The first time I posted about it was on the OT board probably four or five years ago not long after the book came out and it was given to me while my family and I were camping up on Black Mountain (yearly trip for decades) with friends and family.

It's a great book ... and so are the two sequel books which are out and can be downloaded on Kindel.

We regularly have prepping discussions on the OT. You should get involved. It's 2019 ... keep adding to your preps. Never stop adding to your preps. January is add to your preps month in my family when we take advantage of sales, order new heirloom seeds, upgraded technology and add more Faraday Cage storage space.

But yeah, it's a good book.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21238 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

A few old Scuds launched off of barges off the pacific, gulf and Atlantic coasts simultaneously could do the trick.



Nope.

That article linked on the first page by someone really is good at explaining it.

Yes it could impact cities to even state size areas, but not national outage. The size of the warhead and elevation needed are related.

Atmospheric EMP bursts having nationwide impact is also theoretic, since they have never really tested that scenario.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:22 pm to
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since they have never really tested that scenario.


That we know about. It could explain North Korea.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35623 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:32 pm to
somehow, my fiance's dad road in a limo with the head general/colonel (whatever they are) at ft. rucker and he asked him if all the money we spend on the military is worth it.

his response:

"we own the skies."


kinda makes you think. granted, i don't REALLY know what that means.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13926 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:37 pm to
If terrorists would be so kind as to EMP the Silicon Valley filth that'd be ideal.

This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 4:39 pm
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