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One Second After & EMP Attack

Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:57 pm
I’m sure it’s been mentioned on here, but if you haven’t read the book, “One Second After”, which is a fictional account of possible outcomes from an EMP attack on the US, you need to read it.

It will make you think about how you even locate your family, let alone find a safe place and survive in that place.

Note: this novel has been mentioned on the floors of Congress, and EMP has been expressed as a great concern of the Pentagon and DHS.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:58 pm to
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One Second After & EMP Attack


AN
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:59 pm to
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I’m sure it’s been mentioned on here


Well, we almost made it through the day without this thread
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:00 pm to
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It will make you think about how you even locate your family


The hardest part.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:01 pm to
I haven't read the novel, but Paul Singer (arguably the greatest investor of the past 40 years) has repeatedly highlighted this as a negative outlying risk.

LINK
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:02 pm to
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EMP is all fear mongering. If someone is going to attack us to the degree, it'll just be nuclear warfare from the start.
wut
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:02 pm to
That sort of scenario is one reason I so fervently defend the Second Amendment. We may never experience a true tyrannical government, but it is not out of the realm of possibility to have some sort of EMP, attack on the power grid, financial system collapse, etc. which would lead to chaos within hours. Everyone will want an AR-15 then.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:06 pm to
I'm a big audio book guy averaging several books a month. Although I didn't read the book, there is an unabridged audio version on Audible. This is by far, without question the most riveting book I've ever read/listened to.

For those that take even the most basic steps to being prepared for a major event there's so many things this book brings up that you'd never think about.


I would also recommend Alas, Babylon. It's not as good as OSA but is still very good.

Plus, one of the many duties I have at work is Emergency Preparedness. This role keeps me involved with local and higher level EMAs. THis is the one that scares the shite out of them. They know we're not ready and they know we're not doing the things to get ready.

Three bombs calibrated in the right way is all it would take to set our nation back 300 years. Very sobering thought.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:06 pm to
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EMP is all fear mongering. If someone is going to attack us to the degree, it'll just be nuclear warfare from the start.

An EMP is far more feasible, particularly for a smaller country like North Korea. You don't have to have dozens of devices to successfully take out most of the U.S. power grid, but you do need dozens to cripple the U.S. in a traditional nuclear attack.

I'm not saying either are likely to happen, but if they did, a country like North Korea would be the likely perpetrator. If NK wanted to send the U.S. into chaos, an EMP would be the most feasible way to do it given their limited resources.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:07 pm to
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Great article I read back on why an EMP attack isn't as likely as alarmist fear



How likely is a 7+ earthquake in Seattle or St Louis?

They prepare for it just the same.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26104 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:12 pm to
Why would anyone try a very difficult and costly EMP pulse attack on the US when they can take down electrical grids with a Stuxnet-type immobilising hack software?

The end result is the same, but not as dramatic.

EMP pulse attacks are mostly the domain of Clyde Lewis Ground Zero and Coast to Coast AM conspiracy theory fare. Take off that tin hat, sir. It's not easy to detonate a warhead 200 miles up in the exosphere, with the precision required to fry the whole electrical grid.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 2:13 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:14 pm to
Why does it matter how the grid gets fried dumbass?


The point of the book is how to prepare for it when it happens.


Not that we're surprised your stupid arse missed the point.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69582 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:15 pm to
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How likely is a 7+ earthquake in Seattle or St Louis?

They prepare for it just the same.


That's a localized even just like an EMP would be (And that's almost a best case scenario for the would be attacker)

The technological development it would take to shutdown the entire US electric grid with an emp is not even close to existing despite attempts. Nothing close to it has ever been tested and tests during the cold war were highly unstable and unpredictable.

Yeah it could blackout a state-sized region but with the rest of the country up and running, it would not turn into an armageddon, live off the land for 12 months situation. I'm not saying it would be good and people should always be prepared but the entire US grid being taken out by an EMP is simply fear mongering.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:16 pm to
It seems this EMP thing has been discussed on here once a week for the past three years
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:26 pm to
Good story. But the dialog in that book was atrocious.

Real people don’t address the person they’re speaking to by name, EVERY SENTENCE.

It’s so painful that I didn’t even get the 2 sequels.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Yeah it could blackout a state-sized region but with the rest of the country up and running,


They wouldn't have to take out the entire country. Take out a few heavily populated areas and it would cause chaos in the entire country. NYC, DC, L.A & SF.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69582 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Take out a few heavily populated areas and it would cause chaos in the entire country. NYC, DC, L.A & SF.


The US would respond with a nuclear attack on whoever carried out the attack. (Sorry, but a terrorist organization will not have these capabilities)

So why would they carry out an attack with a "weapon of mass disruption" instead of a "weapon of mass destruction"

The chances of an EMP attack, while scary, are significantly less than a nuclear attack on the mainland.
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