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re: On this Sunday morning, can we have a little chat about religion?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:48 pm to Ricardo
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:48 pm to Ricardo
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Here's one of my favorite quotes from the book, "Where the Red Fern Grows."
"I went to my mother and asked her if God answered prayers every time one was said. She smiled and said, "No, Billy, not every time. He only answers the ones that are said from the heart. You have to be sincere and believe in Him."
That's an interesting quote, but it does degrade parents who tirelessly pray over their children who are suffering through terminal health conditions.
"Your kid would still be alive if only you were sincere in your belief."
Honestly, I'd punch someone in the face for telling me that.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 12:50 pm
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:49 pm to LSUbacchus81
Here's the thing, man. If you keep your faith and end up being wrong, what's the worst that happens? If you reject God and end up being wrong, what's the worst that happens? Simple as that.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:52 pm to KCSilverTiger
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If you keep your faith and end up being wrong, what's the worst that happens?
You could have lived your only life differently? Seems at least noteworthy...
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If you reject God and end up being wrong, what's the worst that happens?
Why just the Christian God, though? Doesn't this hedging the bet work with the thousands/tens of thousands of gods various cultures from various time periods believed in?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:55 pm to Ricardo
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I recommend spending an hour or so a day reading or listening to the bible. Youtube has a very good complete bible reading.
Learn from the wisdom of it. You don't need to take every verse literally. In fact, I would recommend you don't. Instead, dwell on the lessons.
No one is perfect. Even the men and women that God spoke to directly were apt to make mistakes. That's the very first lesson of the bible. Failure is human. The various tests that we are challenged with, sometimes make it difficult to maintain faith. Instead, remember that God loves you and no matter how bad things might seem, you are never alone.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:57 pm to Azkiger
That's why it's important to maintain perspective. Pain and suffering is part of life. To the person suffering, it might not seem fair, but life isn't about fairness. It's about serving God.
And we often interpret things the way we want to, not the way they are. Sometimes we may not like the answers we're given, but it's up to us to remember that the only things we can control is our attitude. How we choose to go through life matters more than what happens to us.
And we often interpret things the way we want to, not the way they are. Sometimes we may not like the answers we're given, but it's up to us to remember that the only things we can control is our attitude. How we choose to go through life matters more than what happens to us.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:57 pm to KCSilverTiger
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Here's the thing, man. If you keep your faith and end up being wrong, what's the worst that happens? If you reject God and end up being wrong, what's the worst that happens? Simple as that.
I just don't want to be wasting my time with a God who has most likely given up on me, and rightfully so, if he did, I should add.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:58 pm to LSUbacchus81
Why would He need to show everyone? He has shown us His goodness for thousands of years. He sent His son to die in your place. I would rather that than needing to see the alternative. Do you go visit prisons so that you won’t end up there? No you don’t.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:01 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Let’s be as pragmatic as we can about it. Living your life by the tenants of Christianity gives you a good anchor in life, a way to act, something to believe in, something to look forward to. It’s a great way to live and if we are wrong and there isn’t anything after this then we will never ever know. Seems like a solid hedge
Awesome. Best explanation I've seen. Even if you live by the ways described in a secular level. It's a great rulebook.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:01 pm to Azkiger
There's physical evidence that stories told in the Bible actually happened. I'm not really trying to pursued anyone as that's a choice each person has to make themselves. I just say to this who reject God, you better hope you were right when the time comes.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:03 pm to yakster
Why show it to the ones he does, though? Does he care more about some than others?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:03 pm to Ricardo
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That's why it's important to maintain perspective. Pain and suffering is part of life. To the person suffering, it might not seem fair, but life isn't about fairness. It's about serving God.
What does this have to do with God answering prayers that are sincere, and parents who pray over their dying children?
You didn't lead with pain and suffering and life not being fair, you quoted a very specific idea - that God answers sincere prayers. Do you believe that or not?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:04 pm to KCSilverTiger
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I just say to this who reject God, you better hope you were right when the time comes.
This is true of any god or gods. But thanks for reminding everyone.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:07 pm to LSUbacchus81
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This confuses me, though, because what about those who claim they went to hell but weren’t given the chance for redemption?
This doesn’t make any sense. If they went to hell and are back able to discuss it, then they definitely have a chance for redemption.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:09 pm to Azkiger
I do believe that, but like I said, there's no promise that you'll like the answer you're given.
I know this is a heavy duty topic to discuss on TD, but this is why faith is so important.
I know this is a heavy duty topic to discuss on TD, but this is why faith is so important.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:14 pm to LSUbacchus81
Absolutely not. I could almost guarantee that He has shown you or done things in your life to show you His grace and mercy towards you. Think about this scripture, “While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us”. How much more do you want Him to do besides giving His Son that you might have life for eternity?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:14 pm to Ricardo
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I do believe that, but like I said, there's no promise that you'll like the answer you're given.
So some sincerely made prayers can alter real world outcomes, but others do not?
How does that work?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:18 pm to LSUbacchus81
LSUbacchus, you will never be wasting your time with the one true God. The Bible says He is slow to anger and abounds in love. He is looking for every opportunity to reveal Himself to you. 2 Peter 3:9…He (God) is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. Get you a Bible and start reading in the book of John. Christ suffered and died for ALL who will believe in His name and accept the free gift of salvation.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:19 pm to Azkiger
Body produces DMT at that stage which causes hallucinations. Nothing more nothing less
So what if a Morman sees Joseph Smith or a Muslim sees Muhammad? What do you tell them.
So what if a Morman sees Joseph Smith or a Muslim sees Muhammad? What do you tell them.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:20 pm to Azkiger
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I thought it were obvious, but perhaps not.
What do you think I meant by my reply to you?
Could you clarify things for us, please?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:22 pm to Champagne
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Could you clarify things for us, please?
This is my attempt at clarification.
I said something.
Your response leads me to believe you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. In an attempt to smooth this misunderstanding over, I'm asking you what you thought I meant.
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