re: On This Day In History: October 7 2023: Hamas launches deadliest attack in Israeli history

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Some of us think Israel should have defended themselves even more. Not stopping patrols on that morning. Not locking up all the weapons. Not telling soldiers to stand down. Not taking hours to respond. Not ignoring intelligence.

I think they should have focused more on the defense instead of allowing the attack to proceed so they could have cover for the offensive Netanyahu has wanted for years.

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All of this. You can’t tell me that Israel was caught off guard given how prolific their intelligence is. They used it as an excuse to build sympathy and declare war.

He’s not an idiot. He just hates Jewish people and like when they get murdered. It’s more of a statement on his dark triad traits than his intelligence. Some people just embrace evil and darkness and others go to the light. And these are dark times and spiritual warfare is everywhere. Obviously, If you can’t disavow October 7 it’s pretty obvious you are in moral crisis..Its like being pro Manson family. Utter moral lunacy.

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He’s not an idiot. He just hates Jewish people and like when they get murdered. It’s more of a statement on his dark triad traits than his intelligence. Some people just embrace evil and darkness and others go to the light. And these are dark times and spiritual warfare is everywhere. Obviously, If you can’t disavow October 7 it’s pretty obvious you are in moral crisis..Its like being pro Manson family. Utter moral lunacy.

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Pimp, you’ve lost a step over the years. This has to be the biggest gaggle of word tripe I’ve ever read here and I’ve read a lot.

What if the guy is just an American (maybe a true Christian) that doesn’t believe the Protestant belief that Israel are the chosen people.

What if he just thinks that a country as insignificant as Israel, doesn’t deserve the aid America gives her each and every year?

What if he is angry that their leader walks all over ours and brags how he has full control over Trump?

What if he’s just tired of all the killing over there?

Does any of that resemble AT ALL what you just accused him of?

Ffs man. Get a grip.

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Two things- none of that has anything to do with the topic that we have been discussing- which is the moral idiocy or moral bankruptcy involved in not being able to condemn the torture, rape, murder and kidnapping of innocent civilians. I’ve said nothing on this thread about Israel or the war in Gaza.

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This is bullshite and you know it. Nobody is commending the actions of Oct 7 and you know it.

Here’s a hint: the argument against those who criticize Israel can’t always be antisemitic. And you conflating the two only makes you look like a leftist NAZI with Muh Racism. Which is why you are losing the younger conservatives. Because those kids have heard the same thing their entire lives with being “privileged.” It’s trite. Old. And boring.

If everything is antiemetic, then nothing is.

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Secondly, - your insults aside, you should REALLY read my comments and his comments throughout this thread and grapple with the caliber of people you are in bed with. It’s a very bad look.

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You think that was an insult?

Again with the shaming of not worshipping at the Israeli alter. I serve one God, my friend. And Israel being the chosen people ended with Jesus. The chosen people are Christians. And that is who I serve. See above.

You are making an illogical argument. You are not talking about MY conversation on THIS thread with this particular antisemite ( he is) , you are simply saying that criticism of Israel is not antisemitic. As someone who frequently criticizes Israel I agree. So you are essentially arguing against something I never said. And you seem to be expanding your illogic to the point of saying that antisemitism actually doesn’t exist. It’s vapid.

I challenge you to read my comments and his comments in THIS thread. But really, I don’t give a frick, as it’s self evident really.

Also, I have never made an argument or uttered the phrase here that they are the chosen people. I generally avoid religious issues and have for 22 years here. It’s not my area of expertise. I go to church on Sunday with my girlfriend and read the Bible- ostensibly the same as you. I speak of “ spiritual warfare” because I like million of other sense it- when people lose their moral footing and can’t bring themselves tocondemn the insane atrocities that occurred on January 7. That’s truly moral bankruptcy and true spiritual poverty.

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You are making an illogical argument

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Am I?

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You are not talking about MY conversation on THIS thread with this particular antisemite ( he is)

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I didn’t read one antisemitic post he posted. But I did read this fire you spewed about him.

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He’s not an idiot. He just hates Jewish people and like when they get murdered. It’s more of a statement on his dark triad traits than his intelligence. Some people just embrace evil and darkness and others go to the light. And these are dark times and spiritual warfare is everywhere. Obviously, If you can’t disavow October 7 it’s pretty obvious you are in moral crisis..Its like being pro Manson family. Utter moral lunacy.

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Which is where my argument for

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you are simply saying that criticism of Israel is not antisemitic

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Stems from

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So you are essentially arguing against something I never said. And you seem to be expanding your illogic to the point of saying that antisemitism actually doesn’t exist. It’s vapid.

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Just because you say these things completely out of context doesn’t make them true. It actually shows the hypocrisy that you are arguing the same exact thing you accused others of doing. It’s stale man. Boooooring….

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What kind of deranged individual would downvote this and be okay with beheading infants, children and family members in front of them

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The same ahole that want to do it you and me and our families. Islamist nut jobs and their brain-dead lefty lap dogs. Then there is the occasional neo-nazi ahole.

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Spiritual poverty and morally bankrupt is thinking that one group of people deserves the death, genocide and destruction over the last 2 years.

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Again, I have said nothing about Gaza. It’s a separate topic from the one I am discussing with him. Try to keep up.what he is doing is celebrating murder, something I have not done and would not do. You are defending a guy who can’t bring himself to condemn the atrocities of October 7. That’s what you are unwittingly defending.

I agree with most of what you say concerning Christianity. Again though, not my area of expertise.

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I wish you were more intelligent

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This is the basis for every argument you have with anyone in this thread. A bunch of ad hominem bullshite.

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It would make this more interesting for me.

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I’ve already told you you were boring in this thread. Twice, in fact. Now you are unoriginal.

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Here is your argument in a nutshell , a classic non-sequitur, a fallacy of composition , an illicit generalization if you will:

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Whole lot of words to say nothing.

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Not everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic, therefore no one who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic.

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ffs man

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Not everyone who drives fast is reckless therefore nobody who drives fast is reckless.

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lol. Not everyone who is a Jew is a Gentile. But every Gentile is a Jew.

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It’s sophistry. You fail. Of course one can love Jews and criticize Israel and one can be a rabid antisemite and critics Israel. His comments make it obvious. Why you would defend that is beyond me. Pretty sketchy stuff. But you do you.

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What comments EXACTLY make him antisemitic? Be specific.

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Pimp, you’ve lost a step over the years.

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He’s been a broken man since his divorce and his decision to aid illegal immigrants in breaking U.S. law all in exchange for some poon.

Just look at how your conversation with him in this thread went. You simply questioned his tone, and now you’re unintelligent, you’ve insulted him, and you’re in bed with anti-semites (probably even one yourself). Did he call you “Hamas bro”? That’s one of his favorites. That’s our Pimp. He’s still holding on to a lot of anger.