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Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:25 am to Tuscaloosa
You're contradicting yourself
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:27 am to cubsfan5150
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You're contradicting yourself
When? I’ve made the same argument since my first post in the thread. The evidence isn’t strong enough for a death sentence. That is all.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:31 am to Tuscaloosa
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When? I’ve made the same argument since my first post in the thread. The evidence isn’t strong enough for a death sentence. That is all.
You argued for his innocence and then said he’s probably 99.99% guilty.
You are a fool and everything that’s wrong with this country.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:34 am to dsides
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You argued for his innocence
No, I didn’t. I correctly pointed out the overall lack of evidence to support a death penalty.
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then said he’s probably 99.99% guilty.
Yes, I think that’s accurate. The 0.01% is what I have a problem with and have detailed throughout the thread - which you have misinterpreted as me arguing that he’s innocent. That may be because you have the IQ of soggy cardboard, or you’re just reading what you want to read.
If the state is going to kill one of its citizens, that 0.01 (or 0.001, or 0.000001) shouldn’t be there. That is all. You clearly disagree because you love your government overreach.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 12:37 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:34 am to joeymg90
He will have his day with God
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:35 am to Tuscaloosa
I'm done here... Stick to fricking with LSU posters on the rant. Go Hogs
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:38 am to Tuscaloosa
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I’d say there’s a 99.99% chance he’s guilty, FWIW
There will never be a case that's 100% unless the jury is actually there to witness it. If you are 99.99% of the opinion he's guilty, then you shouldn't have an issue with this case or the punishment for it.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:38 am to Tuscaloosa
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No, I didn’t. I correctly pointed out the overall lack of evidence to support a death penalty.
Laughable. Good night sweet prince
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:40 am to dsides
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Laughable. Good night sweet prince
Enjoy big government spooning you tonight.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:47 am to PaperTiger
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There will never be a case that's 100% unless the jury is actually there to witness it. If you are 99.99% of the opinion he's guilty, then you shouldn't have an issue with this case or the punishment for it.
I do think there are plenty of cases - including many death penalty cases - where there is absolutely zero doubt left about the perpetrator, especially in today’s tech world. I don’t think this one fits into that category.
Additionally, I think it’s fair and correct to point out that what we’ve seen through Rittenhouse case certainly proves that the state isn’t at all interested in justice. They are interested in winning a case, and if that means lying, cheating, concealing, or otherwise manipulating evidence, witness testimony, etc, then so be it. I don’t have any faith in them being sure to not frick up when attempting to handle that 0.01%.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:46 am to Tuscaloosa
That's true in any case that been pressured to be held, based off political leanings, that doesn't have evidence to back up the charges (i.e. Rittenhouse, Trayvon Martin, etc).
The Jones case, there is a ton of evidence that keeps getting left out that clearly explains that it was him. And it wasn't at all political until the last 3 months. And making it political now is absurd. Why? Because now it makes you question the results for no reason.
One case is political, and one case is based off of facts, and I don't think you can accurately compare the two. You are basically saying that because the 2021 State prosecution of Rittenhouse is moronic and was pressured to come up with a case, that the 1999 state prosecution of Mr Jones was handled the same way? And if that's the case, then you aren't arguing the .01% to why he shouldn't get the death penalty, you are arguing for no more death penalty at all.
The Jones case, there is a ton of evidence that keeps getting left out that clearly explains that it was him. And it wasn't at all political until the last 3 months. And making it political now is absurd. Why? Because now it makes you question the results for no reason.
One case is political, and one case is based off of facts, and I don't think you can accurately compare the two. You are basically saying that because the 2021 State prosecution of Rittenhouse is moronic and was pressured to come up with a case, that the 1999 state prosecution of Mr Jones was handled the same way? And if that's the case, then you aren't arguing the .01% to why he shouldn't get the death penalty, you are arguing for no more death penalty at all.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 3:09 am to Tuscaloosa
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We’ve got a lot of small government conservatives around here that get off on the state killing its citizens.
Bizarre, really.
What is it you "small government" argument people expect the government to be responsible for? If the government can't put murderers to death, then you must support the victim's family taking justice into their own hands. Or do you just not want anyone held accountable? Because keeping a murderer locked up for life is no less small government than executing him.
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We have an eye witness who never saw a face, and a weapon found on the property that his defense team contends was planted by the other individuals involved - which is at least plausible.
Your argument is that the real killer wore a red bandana to commit the crime, then found a red bandana with this guy's DNA on it, then snuck into his attic to hide the murder weapon wrapped in his dna-soaked bandana all while somehow leaving this poor innocent man's DNA at the crime scene? Sure, that's believable.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 3:26 am to joeymg90
after seeing the system frick up a simple case like Kyle's, I can understand not being pro death penalty.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 6:41 am to Tuscaloosa
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We’ve got a lot of small government conservatives around here that get off on the state killing its citizens.
Bizarre, really.
This is the same liberal cuck that knights for ruggs
Sad
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:01 am to Tuscaloosa
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No, I didn’t. I correctly pointed out the overall lack of evidence to support a death penalty
So what lack of evidence are you referring to? Do tell. The guy said he was not present and had absolutely nothing to do with it. But the gun used and a red bandana was found in his house that matched his dna. His dna was also found at the crime scene, his accomplish also testified he was there.
So you really think his buddy was smart enough to carry around his friends red bandana with gloves so his dna would never get on it and then wear a different one to set him up and also plant some of his friends dna at the scene? Think about all of that out loud for a minute. Not to mention carjacking is usually a crime of opportunity, not a crime that’s needs long term planning.
Or maybe it’s more plausible that his friend is out of jail and is running his mouth that he did it now so his friend can get out like him or not get killed because he helped make it happen and b/c the state can’t do him anything due to double jeopardy laws. Not to mention he’s viewed as a rat now in his hood.
Which scenario you believe is more plausible. So if you don’t think he deserves death, then you really must believe some young hood rat is a criminal mastermind and fooled numerous lawyers and judges over 20 years. I really can’t help you……
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 7:10 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:11 am to AmishSamurai
Fry the bastard. Saves the taxpayers money.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:22 am to sms151t
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think there is doubt as to the killer planting the gun somewhere as well?
We going with the cops planted dna on the murder weapon at his house?
You know black people kill white people all the time. It’s nothing new. Not everything is a conspiracy.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:26 am to Eurocat
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Thank God he is alive 20 years later because it seems to me that he didn't do it.
Yes you should thank God you weren’t there to watch this animal murder your father.
You people are sick.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:46 am to AmishSamurai
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As someone who is universally pro-Life ... this is okay.
I can respect this.
I however am pro-innocent life. In prison he is a danger to fellow inmates, guards, and with the possibility of escape the general public.
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