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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/10/26 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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A revealing pattern is emerging when you look closely at who the U.S. and Israel targeted during the war.

The heaviest blows were directed at the IRGC and key political leadership, while Iran’s conventional army, the Artesh, was largely left intact.

This does not mean the Artesh operates fully independently of the regime, but the contrast is clear. One force was systematically degraded, while the other was not.

Inside Iran, the IRGC is widely seen as the regime’s ideological core, while the Artesh is often viewed as more closely tied to the population and made up largely of ordinary Iranians.

Whether fully accurate or not, this perception appears to align with the targeting strategy of the United States.

Now layer in the ceasefire.

Many IRGC hardliners have, at least publicly, opposed it.

Negotiating with the United States is being framed by them as capitulation, and that message is resonating with parts of their base. There is visible frustration among regime supporters, with some openly criticizing figures like Ghalibaf for even engaging in talks.

This reveals a deeper fracture.

On one side, elements pushing for negotiation to stabilize a deteriorating situation. On the other, hardliners rejecting compromise entirely, even as pressure mounts.

But the distinction is not true. The regime’s so-called “hardliners,” “moderates,” and “reformists” all operate within the same system and ultimately serve its survival.

Against that backdrop, the military targeting begins to look more strategic.

Weaken the ideological and hardline power centers, while leaving the conventional military structure in place.

It reflects a familiar approach used in Iraq: degrade the core political force - the Baathists in Iraq’s case and the IRGC in Iran’s - while preserving institutions that could shape what comes next.

Whether that calculation holds is another question.

The divide between the IRGC and the Artesh is not clean, and political influence runs deep across both. Assuming one can function independently of the other may prove to be a misread.

But the pattern is there, and this helps shed light on what the U.S. may be thinking and what informed its strategic strikes.

And combined with the internal backlash over the ceasefire, it points to a regime under pressure both externally and from within.

Thanks to @InsiderGeo to highlighting this.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 5:08 pm to
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Iranian delegation led by Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqher Ghalibaf has arrived in Islamabad for talks with the US, according to Iranian media. Tehran says negotiations will only proceed if its “preconditions” are met — including a ceasefire in Lebanon and the release of billions in frozen Iranian assets.


Always some BS stall tactic or some new condition.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 5:16 pm to
Meanwhile they are re-arming.
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 5:18 pm to
As are we

And, we are observing them in real time....
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:15 pm to
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Meanwhile they are re-arming.


Not internally but IRGC members on the streets of Tehran and Qom are being killed by Iranians
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:16 pm to
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As are we

And, we are observing them in real time....


including every telephone call and internet comms.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:23 pm to
When I wish upon a star. ......
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:23 pm to
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Al Jazeera Channel broadcasts footage showing for the first time Iranian targets aimed at civilians in Qatar and contradictions in Iranian statements

- Broadcast for the first time footage from inside the vacant Al Udeid base, free of military presence
Posted by ItTakesAThief
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:24 pm to
Who thinks that the two Iranian negotiators will not return to Iran and will stay in a hotel in Pakistan like the Hamas leaders did with Qatar to hide from Israel.


I hope Trump has not agreed to pre conditions. I suspect that is Iranian propaganda and face saving.
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:31 pm to
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The truth is that if IRGC accepts Trump’s poison pill, Iran will cease to exist as an Islamic Republic because everything they have and want more of, Trump wants dismantled.
If they say no, they’ll see another round of military strikes weakening them, if they say yes, they can kiss goodbye their revolutionary project.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:33 pm to
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TRUMP BOOM: Asian buyers are abandoning Middle Eastern oil & lining up 28 supertankers to carry US crude in May alone. Normal bookings at this point: 5. US Gulf Coast exports hit a record 4.90 million barrels a day in April. Trump's energy dominance is not a talking point. It is a shipping manifest.

h/t @KobeissiLetter
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:45 pm to
Truck nuts: [ON] OFF
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