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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:52 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:52 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I swear the bullshite some of you buy into.
Never bought into it
I could be posting the theory that’s also widespread that there was no pilot rescue and it was just a failed raid on the Isfahan compound but y'all would flip out even worse.
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:53 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:54 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:54 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:55 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:55 pm to rmnldr
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The 4 preconditions that Trump accepted:
1. The release of Iran’s frozen assets
2. A ceasefire in Lebanon
3. Limitation on passage through the Strait of Hormuz to 15 vessels per day, with transit payment
4. The prohibition of any redeployment of U.S. forces and equipments
I'm not shooting the messenger.
But the side that is winning the conflict doesn't have to agree to pre-conditions.
"They don't have the cards..." is as true as it ever was with regards to Iranian negotiations.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:56 pm to AGGIES
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I just don’t see it.
I don’t either. If that’s really their preconditions then nothing will be agreed to unless we’re just surrendering.
The post from the Iranian SA embassy may just be bullshite, who knows.
I’m still of the belief that Iran won’t concede and we’ll have to force the strait open. Our interceptor magazine depth was depleted for our navy and this ceasefire is giving us ample time to reload our VLS on our destroyers and cruisers with plenty of standards and sea sparrows.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:57 pm to hawgfaninc
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Despite war expense, the government is still $140b ahead of FY 2025.
War time Trump may end up more fiscally responsible than peace time Biden.
If accurate, $140B is not chump change...
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:59 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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The fact it had Trump agreed to should be clear and that it’s propaganda that is being pushed by Iran or others supporting Iran.
Yes, but that was in the tweet itself. I am asking what makes anyone think the act of posting is equivalent to believing what was posted.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:59 pm to AndyCBR
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But the side that is winning the conflict doesn't have to agree to pre-conditions.
Not trying to sound like a TDS retard — and I’m looking at this purely from a strategic perspective — it’s not crystal clear who exactly is winning this strategically.
Tactically and operationally we’ve smashed them to pieces, but at the end of the day, they have the Strait closed and that’s their main weapon. We have all the advantages at the tactical and operational level but right now Iran does appear to have a slight strategic upper hand (and it’s their only leverage point).
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:00 pm to hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:01 pm to hawgfaninc
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They keep trying to humiliate the US with preconditions, paying them to turn up to negotiations etc.
I'm still okay with it because it's important for domestic politics that they say we gave negotiations a chance. I understand it's not ideal, but political considerations matter too and I'm a fan of having domestic political ammo at the expense of dealing this kind of retarded shite from Iranians.
The international stuff matters, but domestic matters just as much and we need to win that too. It's an unfortunate situation, but it's fine. It's good the anti war guy JD is at this, he now gets to tell all the anti war people they're lunatics too, or they accept our terms (unlikely).
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:04 pm to crazy4lsu
His history of posting mostly negative tweets and other comments about Trump. I am fine with people not always being for what Trump does or not liking him at all. He looks for anything that sheds a negative light on Trump and posts it.
Just like the Dems posting dishonest lies and misinformation about Trump. I have no doubt they know it’s false but hits submit anyway. Propaganda and gaslighting.
I call them out too.
Just like the Dems posting dishonest lies and misinformation about Trump. I have no doubt they know it’s false but hits submit anyway. Propaganda and gaslighting.
I call them out too.
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:06 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:07 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:07 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Okay, thanks for an actual answer.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:07 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:12 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:13 pm to AndyCBR
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But the side that is winning the conflict doesn't have to agree to pre-conditions.
The issue is that the Iranians do likely believe they are winning, as winning to them means the survival of the regime. The leadership lost, the destruction of assets, and everything else is secondary to the survival of the regime. The intercession of Pakistan muddies the water, as Pakistan has signed a defense agreement with the KSA and is also historically been used by the US when their interests coincide. If Pakistan intervened to prevent a wider regional war which the Iranians likely would have sought had Trump gone through with his threat so as to prevent specific language in their defense pact with the KSA from triggering, it might be the case that how each side views this conflict is still far apart, and thus it is likely that these negotiations will not be fruitful at the moment.
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