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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:06 pm to
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The unrivaled combination of skill, courage, capability, gallantry, creativity, self-confidence, grit, rigor, ruggedness, toughness, sterling character, personal pride and patriotic selflessness the defines our nation’s warfighters (see: MacArthur farewell to West Point) represents the pinnacle of American excellence, which in turn represents the pinnacle and highest flourishing of Western excellence.

You cannot understand the heart of America without understanding the heart of those who built her. Frontier history never ended, its legacy continues in those who still perform our greatest and most daring deeds.

This excellence is unique in every sense of the word. Almost everything that has been wrong in past policy and present political commentary stems from being either willfully ignorant of, or outright hostile to, this simple fact.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:22 pm to
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:26 pm to
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:27 pm to
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The WSO, a Colonel, is alive, out of Iran, and receiving medical evaluation and treatment.

He was flown to a medical facility in Kuwait for further care. Injuries are consistent with a high-altitude ejection (possible fractures, bruising, or other trauma from the seat/landing) plus the physical demands of evasion (climbing ridges, hiding in crevices, limited food/water).

He was in good enough condition to hike 5 miles, signal rescuers, and evade Iranian forces for nearly two days. No life-threatening conditions have been reported. His status is currently stable.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:28 pm to
Hamasbros in 3..2..1..
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:31 pm to
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:32 pm to
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The influence of the United States and Israel will increase among Gulf countries, according to a Diplomatic Advisor to the UAE President.

"I believe the Iranian strategy will actually concretize the American role in the Gulf, moving forward. It will not reduce it. We will also see Israeli influence become more prominent in the Gulf, not less," said Dr. Anwar Gargash, in a remark approved by the UAE's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:33 pm to
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The unrivaled combination of skill, courage, capability, gallantry, creativity, self-confidence, grit, rigor, ruggedness, toughness, sterling character, personal pride and patriotic selflessness

Stephen Miller has a lot of adjectives in his arsenal.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by ItTakesAThief
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:35 pm to
So they shot down c130s and little birds that all landed next to one another.


This stuff is comical.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:35 pm to
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:36 pm to
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:41 pm to
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Trump: Master of “Weaponized Uncertainty". While pundits unravel his words like puzzles, the troops, timing, and pressure are telling the real story. Pundits are tying themselves in knots. Allies whispering to each other like they’re trying to decode some grand mystery. Frankly, it’s really not that complicated.

Trump says something wild. Markets twitch. Allies in a panic. Then, twenty-four hours later, he softens it. Or flips it. Or says something that sounds like the opposite. And everyone goes, “See? He doesn’t know what he’s doing.” “He’s getting old.” No. That’s the part you’re still missing. He knows EXACTLY what he’s doing. He’s playing you.


I don't really think the pundits are missing what Trump is doing. It just suits their purposes to say he's crazy (even though everyone still remembers that they ignored 4 years of Biden dementia). But it doesn't matter because his communication tactics have muddied the waters to the point of disabling the US media's pro-Iranian propaganda campaign. Even a true leak gets lost in the torrent. And the Islamic regime has no idea what to believe.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:43 pm to
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:47 pm to
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America First bros are all bent outta shape cuz we give Israel around $4 billion every year. Meanwhile we give NATO nearly $1 trillion!

Both sums are eligible for scrutiny, but there’s no doubt that Israel has done more to forward our interests abroad. Or that their values more closely match ours.
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We give Israel well below 1% of our budget, but the $4 billion figure is pre-Oct 7.

We don't give NATO anywhere near $1 trillion. We don't even give them $1 billion in direct payments, but about $770 million. We must spend a few billion per year on the bases we still have in NATO countries, but the forces themselves would not go away if we left NATO so we can't count the cost of those forces, fighters, tanks, etc. Our military is already very small by historic standards and we wouldn't shrink it further after leaving NATO.

Our entire defense budget is almost $1 trillion.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:49 pm to
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I don't really think the pundits are missing what Trump is doing. It just suits their purposes to say he's crazy. But it doesn't matter because his communication tactics have muddied the waters to the point of disabling the US media's pro-Iranian propaganda campaign. Even a true leak gets lost in the torrent. And the Islamic regime has no idea what to believe
There has been a serious well planned out public relations strategy to this from day one, The haters* and the actual real enemy were the ones he was fricking with.

Always look at action (20+K sorties) versus "words".

*MSM & Libtards -he has had them in knots since day one
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:50 pm to
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NEW: The rescued F-15 crew member said “God is Good” over his radio after ejecting from the aircraft over Iran, according to Axios.

Here are remarkable new details about the rescue, according to Axios:

- The rescued crew member is religious.

- The crew member survived more than 24 hours in the mountains while wounded.

- 200 soldiers from special operations units participated in the rescue.

- The F-15 was shot down with a shoulder-fired missile.

- “Thousands of these savages were hunting him down,” Trump said.

- The officer hid in a crevice in the mountain and was found thanks to U.S. technology.

- The officer said “God is good” after ejecting.

- “The two crew members were spread apart by a couple miles. Hundreds of IRGC soldiers were everywhere,” a defense official said.

“The C.I.A. initiated a deception campaign to try to confuse Iranian forces, and convince them the airman had already been rescued and was moving out of the country in a ground convoy,” the NYT reported.

The airman reportedly evaded Iranian forces by hiking up a 7,000-foot ridgeline.

“U.S. attack aircraft dropped bombs and opened fire on Iranian convoys to keep them away from the area where the airman was hiding,” the NYT continued.

“In a final twist after the weapons officer was rescued, two transport planes that would carry the commandos and the airmen to safety got stuck at a remote base in Iran.”

“Commanders decided to fly in three new planes to extract all the U.S. military personnel and the airman, and they blew up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall into Iranian hands.”
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:52 pm to
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