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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:49 pm to wdhalgren
Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:49 pm to wdhalgren
quote:There has been a serious well planned out public relations strategy to this from day one, The haters* and the actual real enemy were the ones he was fricking with.
I don't really think the pundits are missing what Trump is doing. It just suits their purposes to say he's crazy. But it doesn't matter because his communication tactics have muddied the waters to the point of disabling the US media's pro-Iranian propaganda campaign. Even a true leak gets lost in the torrent. And the Islamic regime has no idea what to believe
Always look at action (20+K sorties) versus "words".
*MSM & Libtards -he has had them in knots since day one
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:50 pm to hawgfaninc
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NEW: The rescued F-15 crew member said “God is Good” over his radio after ejecting from the aircraft over Iran, according to Axios.
Here are remarkable new details about the rescue, according to Axios:
- The rescued crew member is religious.
- The crew member survived more than 24 hours in the mountains while wounded.
- 200 soldiers from special operations units participated in the rescue.
- The F-15 was shot down with a shoulder-fired missile.
- “Thousands of these savages were hunting him down,” Trump said.
- The officer hid in a crevice in the mountain and was found thanks to U.S. technology.
- The officer said “God is good” after ejecting.
- “The two crew members were spread apart by a couple miles. Hundreds of IRGC soldiers were everywhere,” a defense official said.
“The C.I.A. initiated a deception campaign to try to confuse Iranian forces, and convince them the airman had already been rescued and was moving out of the country in a ground convoy,” the NYT reported.
The airman reportedly evaded Iranian forces by hiking up a 7,000-foot ridgeline.
“U.S. attack aircraft dropped bombs and opened fire on Iranian convoys to keep them away from the area where the airman was hiding,” the NYT continued.
“In a final twist after the weapons officer was rescued, two transport planes that would carry the commandos and the airmen to safety got stuck at a remote base in Iran.”
“Commanders decided to fly in three new planes to extract all the U.S. military personnel and the airman, and they blew up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall into Iranian hands.”
Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:52 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:53 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:55 pm to hawgfaninc
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“I wasn’t just there, son. I was posting.”
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:05 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:10 pm to hawgfaninc
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Full list of high-profile Iranian figures killed over the past 72 hours:
- Second Brigadier General Masoud Zare was the Commander of the Army (Artesh) Air Defense Academy. He was killed in Shahin Shahr, north of Isfahan.
- Mostafa Azizi was a rear admiral in the IRGC Navy in Khuzestan Province.
- Second Brigadier General Mohammad Hossein Sufi was an IRGC commander in Khorramabad, Lorestan Province. He served for 6 years in Syria.
- Colonel Ruhollah Minakhani was the commander of an IRGC special forces unit (Yegan-e Vizheh) in the Ansar al-Mahdi Corps in Zanjan Province.
- Mohammad Reza Ashrafi Kahi served as the head of commerce in the IRGC's "Oil Headquarters". IDF claims he managed the inflow of billions of dollars of revenue into the IRGC annually through revenue accrued from oil sales. It's possible he also served within the Budget and Financial Affairs Office of the General Staff.
- Naval Lieutenant Kamal Alizadeh served at the Khorramshahr Marine Commando Base. He was from the city of Suq in Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad Province. He was killed by American strikes during the rescue of the stranded WSO on Kuh-e Siah, near Dehdasht.
- Abolfazl Peyman, the administrator of the cyberspace unit of the “Martyr Fahmideh Student Basij Resistance Zone” in Dehdasht, was killed during the American rescue operation.
- Basij volunteer Ali Kiani was a from Dehdasht and was also killed while trying to locate the second American crewmember. He served as a Sergeant First Class in the IRGC when he was younger.
- 3 mid-level commanders in the Fatehin Special Unit in the Basij: Majid Amini, Amir Qamarpour, & Mohammad Pourghadi were killed in Tehran.
- Reza Oradi was a senior member of the IRGC's Intelligence Organization in South Khorasan Province. He was a member of the IRGC's Ansar al-Reza Corps and was killed in strikes around Birjand.
*so far
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:13 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:13 pm to hawgfaninc
Very glad to hear the rescue mission went well. Let’s end this shite already
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:15 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:17 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:22 pm to hawgfaninc
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A large and widespread US and Israeli bombing campaign across Iran.
Targets include: Tehran, Karaj, Ardabil, Zanjan, Miyaneh, Mahabad, Ilam, Borujerd, Shushtar, Izeh, Shiraz, Bushehr, Bandar Kangan, Bandar Abbas, Hajiabad, Sirjan, Iranshahr, Jiroft, Rafsanjan, Qom, and Saveh.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:25 pm to hawgfaninc
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Yes, despite all the Xperts on the law of armed conflict, targeting bridges, power plants, oil and gas facilities, airfields, and other dual-use infrastructure like factories, communications nodes, and rail lines that serve both civilian and military needs may be lawful. The law does not decide targets just by calling something civilian infrastructure. It looks at what the object actually does. An object counts as a military objective when by its nature, location, purpose, or use makes an effective contribution to military action and its total or partial destruction, capture, or disabling offers a definite military advantage in the circumstances at the time.
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That is the rule. Infrastructure linked to an enemy's ability to fight can be targeted. A bridge moving troops or supplies, a power plant supporting command and control or weapons production, and oil and gas facilities tied to military operations or logistics can/could qualify. The fact that these things also help civilian life does not make them off limits. Wars have always included objects that serve both sides, and the law takes that into account. 2/6
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:27 pm to hawgfaninc
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But being legal is never automatic. Every strike has to meet military necessity, distinction, proportionality, and feasible precautions. Leaders/Commanders decide based on what they know at the time whether the target is really a military objective that gives a definite military advantage. They weigh whether the expected harm to civilians and civilian objects would be excessive compared to that advantage. They also take all feasible steps with the target to minimize civilian harm. These choices happen in real conditions with limited information and get judged on what was known then, not later. 3/6
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And yes, for all the predicable whataboutism, the repeated Russian strikes on Ukraine's power grid over the last 4+ years, in my opinion does raise real questions under the law of armed conflict. Not because power facilities can never be hit. They can if they meet the test. But the wide scale, the length of time, timing in conjunction with cold weather, and the pattern look more aimed at creating broad suffering among civilians and forcing political results than at gaining specific military gains. That difference counts. The expected advantage, the actual effects, and proportionality all matter. 4/6
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:27 pm to hawgfaninc
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So no Xperts, any strike on infrastructure does not automatically equal a war crime.
War crimes come from actually breaking the rules, such as intentionally attacking civilians or civilian objects, failing to make the required distinction, or causing incidental harm to civilians and civilian objects that would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage expected.
War crimes do not come simply from the type of target hit. Saying every strike on a bridge or power plant is illegal, without checking its actual military role, the advantage it was meant to provide, and the steps taken to limit civilian harm, is not real legal analysis/opinion. It is likely blind hate for political reasons or sheer ignorance. 5/6
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:32 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:34 pm to hawgfaninc
I honestly haven’t been super plugged in. Tucker is saying all of this because we’re bombing Iran?
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:39 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:39 pm to hawgfaninc
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