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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:20 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:20 am to
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MORE: Trump: “I’m giving negotiations very little time. If they fail, we’ll return to very intense fighting.”

Speaking to Israel’s Channel 12 News, President Donald Trump said the U.S. is engaged in “very deep talks” with Iran.

“If they don’t succeed, we’ll return to very powerful military action,” Trump said.

Asked how long he is willing to give diplomacy, Trump replied: “Not much time. Either this moves quickly, or it won’t happen at all.”

“Everyone involved in the talks with Iran has asked me, ‘Don’t shoot,’” Trump added, saying he believes the Iranians want to reach a deal.

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“Everyone involved in the talks with Iran has asked me, ‘Don’t shoot,’” Trump added, saying he believes the Iranians want to reach a deal.


Oh Donald, they don't want to deal. They will say whatever they can to delay the resumption of action. They will play us like a fiddle just like they have since April.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7581 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:28 am to
Of course everyone is saying “don’t shoot” except Iran!
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6061 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:45 am to
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Riddle me this…why are we low on munitions considering our budget. Seems absurd.


The government is wasteful and inefficient everywhere, except for our trillion plus annual Department of Wars budget.

When we finally ended the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and our war spending did not go down should have been a pretty big clue what that money is actually for. It isn’t to keep our homeland safe or to build the most effective fighting force.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:56 am to
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our stockpiles are really as low as they claim, that means we had days or weeks worth of ammunition for an actual full scale war. That is completely and totally unacceptable.


I have read a few articles in the past that stated if we fought China over Taiwan, we would need to win quick as we would start running out of munitions as soon as one week.

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Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39078 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:00 am to
Make the arsenal of democracy great again.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27338 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 3:32 pm to
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MORE: Trump: “I’m giving negotiations very little time. If they fail, we’ll return to very intense fighting.”



Looks to me like this is a pause for resupply.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3094 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 3:48 pm to
Correct, the military and most veteran funded pensions are a massive drain on the government. Joining the military and sitting behind a desk for 20 years shouldn’t be a golden ticket for the rest of your life. It’s unaffordable and illogical. If you are a combat veteran with combat issues, that’s one thing but the vast majority of veterans on retirement or disability aren’t and that is the problem. Most of the funding is getting eaten up by the massive bureaucracy it has created post WWII
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13686 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:49 pm to
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Correct, the military and most veteran funded pensions are a massive drain on the government. Joining the military and sitting behind a desk for 20 years shouldn’t be a golden ticket for the rest of your life. It’s unaffordable and illogical. If you are a combat veteran with combat issues, that’s one thing but the vast majority of veterans on retirement or disability aren’t and that is the problem. Most of the funding is getting eaten up by the massive bureaucracy it has created post WWII


This is the dumbest shite written on this site. Militaries need a lot of guys who aren’t shooting at the enemy to function. We should take care of all who serve. What we shouldn’t do is glorified corporate welfare to defense contractors who make overwrought equipment that doesn’t scale to real warfare.
Posted by Lowercase G
Member since Jul 2022
1034 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 5:39 pm to
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Correct, the military and most veteran funded pensions are a massive drain on the government. Joining the military and sitting behind a desk for 20 years shouldn’t be a golden ticket for the rest of your life. It’s unaffordable and illogical. If you are a combat veteran with combat issues, that’s one thing but the vast majority of veterans on retirement or disability aren’t and that is the problem. Most of the funding is getting eaten up by the massive bureaucracy it has created post WWII


OMFG! You with this horse shite again. fricker. you could've joined
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3094 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 6:56 pm to
No we shouldn’t be offering retirement after 20 years of service. I am sorry that hurts your feelings. The military has become an easy retirement for most military veterans. Vietnam veterans got denied care quite frequently as did others before and after them who served in combat. A veteran who never left the lower 48 shouldn’t be retiring in their early 40’s on 60k. That is unaffordable. That is the problem with the military as a whole. It is too bloated and far too political to sustain itself
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3094 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:05 pm to
That isn’t a defense nor do I care what decisions you made. You joined the service? Awesome but at no point did the American public sign off on your pension plans for individuals who
had desk jobs which is the vast majority of veterans. Fewer than 15% of current military members have experienced combat, nearly 40% have never been deployed. I am all for giving the 15% who have experienced combat a golden parachute or the ones who have been deployed oversees but not the other 50% or so who simply use the military as a means to an end. Sorry, not sorry and the vast majority of Americans would agree with me.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13686 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:12 pm to
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No we shouldn’t be offering retirement after 20 years of service. I am sorry that hurts your feelings. The military has become an easy retirement for most military veterans. Vietnam veterans got denied care quite frequently as did others before and after them who served in combat. A veteran who never left the lower 48 shouldn’t be retiring in their early 40’s on 60k. That is unaffordable. That is the problem with the military as a whole. It is too bloated and far too political to sustain itself



"Hurt my feelings"

Brother, my feelings have nothing to do with it. You're just softer than baby shite.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4777 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:16 pm to
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Of course everyone is saying “don’t shoot” except Iran!


They are totally coming around.

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Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3038 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:59 pm to
Look up the demographics of those never in combat but have 100% disabilities
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