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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:19 am to wfallstiger
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:19 am to wfallstiger
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At some juncture the Hebrew State is going to have to re-enter the fray....tell Turkey, Greece and anyone else of like mind to take a walk
We got played by Israel. They want us to wreck their regional competition but leave us in a weakened position of control over their region. They have seemingly succeeded. The petrodollar system is more at risk today than it has been since Nixon made the secret deal to start it.
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:22 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:24 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:27 am to BayouBengal51
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If tweet fails to load, click here. One ship wasn't attacked, it just had a "happy little incident"
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:34 am to BayouBengal51
Looks like someone forgot to tell the Iranians we were supposed to be taking a little break this week.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:35 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:55 am to BayouBengal51
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Houthi military spokesperson Yahya Saree announces "Bab el-Mandeb Strait is fully closed to Saudi Arabia"
The Houthis showing no respect to the Saudis. I don't blame them. The Saudis are poo-cees.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:20 am to Golgi Apparatus
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someone forgot to tell the Iranians we were supposed to be taking a little break
Trump didn't get zapped between the eyes by The Whippoorwill Of Peace; we're "taking a little break" cause of a lack of defensive Patriots in our arsenal. The IRGC is well aware of that fact, and they're going "BOMBS AWAY" at soon to be defenseless targets.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:45 am to beerJeep
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:03 am to MoarKilometers
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yes, very obviously not
If we are running low……. And we haven’t been in an actual full scale war…… and it has been only a few months……
No.
No. We have not. And trying to act like trump is the only one who didn’t do shite to increase our missile stockpile is asinine.
He isn’t free from blame so trying to use him as a gotcha is absolutely fricking retarded.
you are quite literally proving my point while trying to argue against it….
If our stockpiles are really as low as they claim, that means we had days or weeks worth of ammunition for an actual full scale war. That is completely and totally unacceptable.
Our countries economy should be able to flip to a full war production economy at the flip of a switch. Our weapon production should be able to keep up with a full scale war. Not struggle with foreplay.
Every single president since harry s Truman is to blame for the situation our arsenal is in and the sheer lack of ability to keep up with the needs.
A 10% increase is NOTHING. Needs to be tripled or more.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 9:17 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:33 am to beerJeep
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we haven't been in an actual full scale war
We ARE in an actual full-scale war, thanks to Trump's sell out to Cruz and Netanyahu and hordes of dispensational Zionist Bible beaters, across the fruited plain. What's what is what, and it's not pretty, especially now we're running out of defensive capacity
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:43 am to tarzana
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We ARE in an actual full-scale war
Uh…… no…… no we aren’t….
We haven’t been in a full scale war since 1945. Vietnam got close.
You sound emotional.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:46 am to beerJeep
Just another example of some very bad decisions made by DJT and Hegseth (clear enough they thought it would be a bomb/surrender situation). I'm sure no pentagon military planner was prepared for an unexpected six month, sustained, Iran bombing campaign after years of supplying Ukraine.
So we're out of bullets beyond minimum reserve, a worse leader in place, Iran in control of strait, $100 oil, additional debt, dead soldiers.. there is no way to spin this one.
So we're out of bullets beyond minimum reserve, a worse leader in place, Iran in control of strait, $100 oil, additional debt, dead soldiers.. there is no way to spin this one.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 9:47 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:00 am to beerJeep
Korean War 1950-53 (over 30,000 US troops killed -- that was a full scale war)
Vietnam War 1963-75 (over 58,000 US troops killed-- definitely a full scale war)
Middle East Wars 1991 and 2001-2024 full scale wars.
Trump War: 2026-- ? Full Scale War.
This doesn't include the Cold War with the USSR 1950-1991
We've been in a state of war all of my lifetime
Vietnam War 1963-75 (over 58,000 US troops killed-- definitely a full scale war)
Middle East Wars 1991 and 2001-2024 full scale wars.
Trump War: 2026-- ? Full Scale War.
This doesn't include the Cold War with the USSR 1950-1991
We've been in a state of war all of my lifetime
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:06 am to tarzana
What determines if it is a full scale war? What is a half scale war compared to a full scale war? Is a war a war if war has not been declared? I wouldn't consider this with Iran a full scale war. At least not yet.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 10:07 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:08 am to tarzana
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that was a full scale war)
Didn’t even declare war, how can it be full scale? Also homefront largely unaffected so not full scale.
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Vietnam War 1963-75 (over 58,000 US troops killed-- definitely a full scale war)
War never declared. Definitely the CLOSEST to full scale as it did have tangible effects back home along with a draft and all branches utilized.
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Middle East Wars 1991 and 2001-2024 full scale wars.
No declaration of war. Literal ZERO homefront effect. No draft. Not full scale.
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Trump War: 2026-- ? Full Scale War.
No declaration of war. No draft. No troops on ground. No war production. No real effect on home life. (Muh $4 gas is not an effect. Let me know when rationing and multi block gas lines form) quite literally the farthest thing from full scale war.
Words have meaning. Learn them. Stop being an emotional little twat.
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This doesn't include the Cold War with the USSR 1950-1991
I wonder why
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 10:09 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:10 am to LARancher1991
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What determines if it is a full scale war?
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A full-scale war is an all-out, unrestricted military conflict characterized by total national mobilization, massive destruction, and the use of all available military and economic resources. It moves far beyond limited border skirmishes or targeted military strikes.
Aka something we haven’t done since 1945. Came close in Vietnam, but not quite.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:15 am to beerJeep
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:16 am to BayouBengal51
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Trump:
We are holding deep talks with Iran, and if they fail, we will return to a wide-scale military operation.
I responded to the mediators' request to give a chance for negotiations with Iran.
I will not give a long time for negotiations.
-N12
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:17 am to BayouBengal51
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Iran rejected two "extreme" US demands during talks in Islamabad after Washington warned negotiations would fail if Tehran refused to accept them, Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi said on Monday.
"The American side made two extreme demands and said if you do not accept them, the negotiations will fail and we will leave," Gharibabadi said. "We rejected the demands and told them to leave."
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