re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Well how do you feel our Secretary of War performed during his first war?

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"Misunderstandings"

"Bro we need some GCC cash, sorry about killing some of your people and destroying some of infrastructure by blindly firing missiles in your direction and piloting suicide drones into your airports and civilian buildings."

The best time to not go to war with Iran was in March, but the second best time to not go to war with Iran is right now.

Perhaps the negative comments are warranted. Only Trump’s minions will defend this failure.

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Iranian television reports: The passage of naval vessels through the Strait of Hormuz still needs to be done in coordination and approval of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps

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Fake news there and here are having a word duel. Only time will sort the BS fakery from reality.

More Iranian propaganda

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Only Trump’s minions will defend this failure.

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Those are few and far between now.

Theres really no other options.

Boots on the ground: trump would lose all support, theres no will for this is the US for iran

Keep bombing: from the looks of it, doesnt seem to work in a good ratio with the costs and available supply. Here we are paying Iran to simply talk to us after dropping 30 billion, while they still seemingly have significant ability to threaten whoever and whatever they want with drones and missiles, that tells you all you have to know about the cost/benefit there.

Keep the blockade in place: I think the you lose the rest of the world, and most importantly for trump, you keep the inflation fire on the rise, which gives a super easy narrative to the left.. Just play clips of trump talking about affordability.

I tend to think the best option is just pack up and leave, trump can do his thing and say they destroyed their navy, army etc, blah blah. Its not a great option, we went in and kicked hornets nest and now just basically back away but we created a mess with no good roads to take. If the rest of the Arab countries dont want to help, then what are we supposed to do? Id put it all on them or other allies that refused to help. It'll be a blemish on the admins rep, but with today's news cycles, everyone will be on to the next thing a week later. Unfortunately, trump has talked this option out of viability.

This option of basically bribing them to "talk" depends entirely on getting some type of nuclear agreement in the next 2 months while they rebuild all their capabilities, or we are back where we started with even more egg on the face of the USA, while Iran sits in a more powerful seat than before all of this started. I must be hopeful, but we created a power vacuum, and we are relying on the word of some radical Islamic extremist which have never kept their word before...


I honestly think it feels so much worse than it actually is because of all the talking trumps done. If this is 4d chess, we need to get the fk up and stop playing.

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Putting aside the oil waiver/license and no-new sanctions concerns, the more I try to understand what it would take to actually implement Para. 6 ($300B reconstruction fund) and Para. 7 (terminate all sanctions), the more I think U.S. negotiators either knew a final deal was impossible.

This MOU is kicking the can.

Here's what "full implementation" would actually require beyond nuclear concessions:

Para. 6 — $300B fund:

Presidential waiver of IFCA §1245 mandatory sanctions on Iran's construction sector (180-day renewable, Congressional notification required, every cycle)

IRGC FTO delisting, or investors face criminal material support exposurem no general license fixes that

ISA national interest waiver for energy/petroleum investment

Result: no institutional investor commits billions on rolling 6-month waiver cycles.

Para. 7 — Terminate ALL sanctions:

CISADA §104: no presidential waiver authority — mandatory sanctions, requires Congressional repeal

NDAA §1245: 120-day renewable waiver, mandatory Congressional reporting each cycle

§311 PATRIOT Act designation of Iranian financial sector as money laundering concern: separate FinCEN rulemaking, not solved by OFAC

Terrorism + human rights + Russia-overlap designations: each requires independent legal action

All sanctions isn't a switch but a multi-year legislative and regulatory project, and Congress has a vote. How would you get EU to drop Iran's sections under Russia files.

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