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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by BigTigerJoe
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:22 pm to
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During that time they've been continually building their conventional forces, with assistance from China,


You forgot to mention Obama.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:23 pm to
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Our military has been talking about lasers for a long time now. I'm not an expert, but it seems like they'd be useful for that, if they work.


There is probably some pimply-faced 15-year old kid living in his momma's basement somewhere in the midwest that could hack into Iran's drone control system and disable them all.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 1:10 pm to
Is that island in artillery range from the mainland of Iran? Or the mountains?
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 1:50 pm to
Yes.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by Nomad0369
Member since Jun 2026
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 2:03 pm to
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That island up at the top of the Strait would make an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" should we take it. It would be a big loss of face to the IRGC especially if it was known that we wouldn't give it back as long as the regime isn't changed. The question is how to protect it from drones.


You protect it by putting a large amount of air defenses on it. It’ll basically act as a sponge for most of the drones and missiles that would otherwise be intended for threatening shipping through the strait. Combine that with a large naval presence patrolling the strait we should be able to keep the sea lanes open for commercial traffic. And everytime Iran launches a drone or missile we’d have an opportunity to target its launch point.

It doesn’t appear that the civilians are going to rise up against the regime so this is probably the only way to salvage a “win” from this war.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 2:31 pm to
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Is that island in artillery range from the mainland of Iran? Or the mountains?


Measured it on Google Earth Pro and it is well within artillery range of the Iran coast. However, American artillery would have a big advantage with Himars and Excalibur either one of which can put a shell down a chimney 40 miles away.

Drones are the concern as that's in drone range too.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 2:51 pm to
What would we gain from taking an island that is doing nothing and putting people in harms way to keep a presence there.

We can stop their oil tankers in the ocean already.
Posted by Nomad0369
Member since Jun 2026
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 2:54 pm to
We’d control the strait instead of Iran. It’s about everyone else’s oil tankers, not theirs.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 4:07 pm to
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I do believe a dirty bomb would be a credible threat.

Fair, but my point is to what end? Great, they dirty bomb a US city. What’s next? The end of Iran as a nation.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:03 pm to
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I am older now but some grand nephews and niece are in the Air Force now.


What do they do in the AF?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11986 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:10 pm to
I really don't like this idea if the Islamic Republic is allowed to remain in power. I just have the feeling those "Gulf Allies" will just funnel it right back to Iran and the Mullahs.

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Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:18 pm to
You have to control the entire area to secure the strait, not just a few locations. As long as they can fire into the strait, doesn't matter where from, shopping will avoid it.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:22 pm to
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This is great and all but I think it is fair to state that this is also coming at a cost to the US domestic economy too. What is that number? It seems to be making another rate hike from the Fed a possibility.


The fed does not use fuel costs in core inflation calculations, because of temporary fluctuations.
Posted by Nomad0369
Member since Jun 2026
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:24 pm to
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You have to control the entire area to secure the strait, not just a few locations. As long as they can fire into the strait, doesn't matter where from, shopping will avoid it.


Yes. That’s where the naval escorts come in. The islands will absorb a lot of the drones and missiles relieving pressure on the ships transiting the strait.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10970 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:29 pm to
The islands won’t absorb it. IS troops on the islands will.

One wants to be used as cannon fodder. They won’t have access to bunkers there.
Posted by Nomad0369
Member since Jun 2026
53 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:34 pm to
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The islands won’t absorb it. IS troops on the islands will.


That’s what I meant.

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One wants to be used as cannon fodder. They won’t have access to bunkers there.


The military is a dangerous job.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21243 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:37 pm to
Every demand is always headlined with removing frozen assets, that tells you they are in a severe vice grip, when they have been missing payments to the military, it must be getting really tight.

Interestingly, its probably not just Iranian assets, but their own personal ones as well.

Listen to what Bessent says when he cryptically talks about leverage. I guarantee you he has pressured the European financial systems to track down mullahs "get away" cash. All types of leverage can be applied to ensure their attitude adjustment. You have any idea what it would do to a bank to temporarily remove them from the SWIFT banking system, or to halt trading of stocks due to affiliating with a terrorist country.

Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
12736 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:45 pm to
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You protect it by putting a large amount of air defenses on it. It’ll basically act as a sponge for most of the drones and missiles that would otherwise be intended for threatening shipping through the strait. Combine that with a large naval presence patrolling the strait we should be able to keep the sea lanes open for commercial traffic. And everytime Iran launches a drone or missile we’d have an opportunity to target its launch point.


Great. Now tell us how to protect shipping in the rest of the Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, the Arabian Sea, the Red Sea, and the Gulf of Aden.
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